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  • 20
    Feb
    2007
    2:38pm, EST

    Why did a man take his own life?

    Preview tonight's upcoming report.

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent

    As our "To Catch a Predator" investigation continues here in Murphy, Texas, we continue to see a trend that amazes me:  men who have heard about our investigations before --  and some who have actually watched them—still show up at our hidden camera house.

    Take the case of 31-year old Eric Rubalcava. During the online chat, Rubalcava talked about how he wants to have sex with the girl and how he'll kiss her all over. When he showed up at the undercover house, he had camera equipment in his car and an excuse when he meets me. Rubalcava says he thought the girl was 18, but it's clear from the chat log the girl told him she was 13.

    As the conversation continued, he recognized me and talked about seeing the "To Catch a Predator" series once before. I asked him what he thought about the show. He told me it was disturbing to see men go after young girls, but there he was allegedly doing the very same thing. The difference, he claimed, is that he really wouldn't have had sex with the girl, although he admitted that he might have taken some photographs of her. Like 23 of the other men who surfaced in the Murphy investigation, he's charged with online solicitation of a minor.

    You'll also meet a man, alleged to have committed the same crime, who made a tragic choice. In two years and nine investigations, we've never experienced anything like this: Louis W. Conradt Jr. was an assistant district attorney in a neighboring county.  Before that, he was an elected district attorney. He'd been a prosecutor for more than 20 years and was well-known in law enforcement circles.  But evidence indicates that on this particular Saturday night, he was having a sexually-explicit chat and sending pornographic photos to a Perverted-Justice decoy posing as a teenage boy. Conradt also had a phone conversation with a decoy.

    You'll see how we figured out the person on the other end of the chat is actually Conradt.

    He never showed up at our house in Murphy, but in Texas you don't have to show up to be charged with a felony. The online solicitation is enough to get a warrant. And that's exactly what the Murphy police did.

    Instead of facing the charges, Conradt chose to take his own life. It is a scenario that stunned everyone there. Precisely why Conradt chose to kill himself, we'll likely never know. We do know this: He didn't want anybody to see what he left behind on his home computer. Police say he put so many locks that local forensics investigators couldn't recover the information. The computers have now been sent to the manufacturer to defeat the locks.

    I'll keep you posted.

    'To Catch a Predator' airs tonight, Tuesday, 8 p.m. on NBC.

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  • 20
    Feb
    2007
    1:00pm, EST

    Where are the female predators?

    by Jesamyn Go, Dateline Web producer

    After every 'To Catch the Predator' broadcast, the Dateline inbox always gets this question from viewers: Where are the female predators?

    "They are out there," one e-mailer wrote. "I find it hard to believe given all the teacher scandals that there are no female Internet predators."

    Perverted-Justice has only ever encountered one female predator, according to Del Harvey, who has been a Perverted-Justice contributor since 2004 and who has acted as a decoy in the group's investigations. The contributors use decoy profiles that are of girls and boys, but only men have shown up for meetings with what they thought to be underage teens.

    Robert Weiss, executive director and founder of the Sexual Recovery Clinic in California (and who has been featured in one of our episodes), says that while their center treats both male and female offenders, sexual compulsions on the Internet do seem to be a male-dominated thing. "Women, in general, seem to look for relationships and not necessarily sex – although female offenders will have sex with a minor. They're just less likely to seek someone out randomly online."

    He adds that men tend to me more visual (which is probably why pornography often factors into potential predators' online chats with decoys), and men tend to be more comfortable with sex detached from relationships.

    Weiss also says that in relationships, women are generally less aggressive than men — and that this is also true in this case. "So a 'female predator' needs to cross more social and cultural lines to actually become an offender. But when they reach that point or seek out help, they are generally more troubled and are tougher to treat."

    So what makes a 'predator'? For Weiss, a man or woman truly needs help if the desire to have a sexual relationship with an underage teen turns into attempts to do so. Weiss says, "You're not a predator if you have occasional fantasies about underage teens and don't take it further than that. Predators take it to the next step by seeking out images, chats and eventual meetings with kids. Any attempt to make that kind of fantasy into a reality is predatory."

    Also, the person must be taking advantage of an inequity of power – due to age or the nature of the relationship. Perhaps this is why for many, including for those us working at Dateline, it is more upsetting to see people like teachers, doctors, and rabbis — people who are expected to protect youngsters — walk into the house.

    Weiss hopes the series encourages more people who need help to seek it.  He says that the clinic has received numerous calls from people who, after watching the Dateline reports, identified with the problem and feared they could be potential predators. "There are a lot of things at play for those men — problems that exist and things that happen to an individual — before they end up showing up at the Dateline house," he says. "Compulsive sexual behavior is treatable," he says.

     

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  • 14
    Feb
    2007
    12:02am, EST

    Our Texas investigation

    This was Tuesday's blog during the broadcast. These posts were meant to coincide with what was on air.

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent

    When I first walked into our Texas house, I thought it was perfect for one of our "To Catch A Predator" investigations. As you're about to see it's in an upper middle class subdivision in a bedroom community of Dallas, easily accessible by several major roads.

    The guys have once again outdone themselves with the hidden cameras technology. Everything is set. One of our first visitors never comes into the house and what he does is a new twist for us: He's "dallasbadboy2002" and he's rolling up in front of our house in a big red luxury pickup truck. He wants our decoy to come outside so he can give her a present-- a Web cam so that she can perform for him. Watch closely and you might be able to see that he's apparently got other Web cams in the truck as well…all the while he's got his laptop up and running.

    8:10 p.m.
    Dozens of men have been chatting online with Perverted Justice decoys posing as young teens and some of their planned liaisons are about to be fulfilled -- men like the 52-year-old you're about to meet who online goes by the name "itnew2me." He's a consultant in the oil industry and he arrives at a house to meet with a 13-year-old girl named Sequoia. Watch now as he tries to weave a plausible excuse for being here. Later in our conversation, he invokes religion. Whatever you think of that as an excuse, get used to it-- you're going to hear it a number of times.

    8:33 p.m.
    While everything started off smoothly, we soon have some challenges we've never experienced before. Word of our investigation apparently leaks out. A city councilman is riled because the local police chief didn't brief him and some other local politicians in advance. Soon we have neighbors walking up and down the street and a man with a long lens camera taking pictures of everything. It's not the ideal environment for a "To Catch A Predator" investigation. Within an hour, things settle down. Police talk to the folks in the neighborhood. But, as you'll see this will be far from the only difficult situation we'll face in Murphy, Texas.

    8:45 p.m.
    It's often hard to tell just by looking at them what the men caught in our investigations do for a living. In a few moments you'll meet such a man. He's 54 and calls himself  "stanemac12" when he's online. He's been chatting with a decoy who says he's a 13-year-old boy with very little sexual experience. "Stanemac12" sends graphic pictures and asks the decoy if he wants to play with him. Watch as he interacts with our actor playing the role of the boy.

    What do you think he does for a living? Based on his chat, I'm guessing you're not thinking that he's a teacher. And that is exactly what he says he's done for more than 20 years. "Stanemac12" teaches math to middle school students in Dallas, kids who are the same age as the boy he's here to meet. And as you'll see, he's not the only man who surfaces who comes from a surprising profession.  

    8:56 p.m. 
    So far you've only met about half of the men who showed up at our hidden camera house in Texas. Next week you'll meet the rest: former clergy, a potential predator arrested twice in one week, and an assistant district attorney in a nearby county. He refuses to open the door for police and later pulls out a gun...with deadly consequences.

    Let us know what you think about the investigations below.  Click here to read the blog entry on "where are the female predators?"

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  • 13
    Feb
    2007
    6:40pm, EST

    Campaign ads, unhappy neighbors, and other challenges in Murphy, Texas

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent

    For our ninth "To Catch A Predator" investigation, we're set up in a large brick house in an upper middle class subdivision in Murphy, Texas-- a bedroom community outside of Dallas. It will turn out to be one of the most challenging environments in which we've ever worked.

    First off, it's the weekend before election day and one of the most high-profile campaign issues in the race for Texas Attorney General is cracking down on computer predators. In fact as we're putting the finishing touches on our hidden camera house, we see the campaign commercial running virtually every 10 minutes showing an Internet predator being hauled away from his computer by police and put under arrest. If that's not a deterrent, I don't know what is.

    But, the next thing we know, Del and Frag from Perverted-Justice are telling us our first visitor is just moments away. He's a businessman who owns, among other things a fast food restaurant. He's not sure about coming inside the house though and instead wants to drop off a Web cam for our decoy so that she can perform a sexually suggestive act.

    Just moments before he's due to arrive, there is another challenge. The audio board, the piece of equipment our sound technician uses to control all of the microphones, goes dead. That means we have gone from something like 10 microphones to 2. And the one wireless microphone on our decoy is dodgy at best. As she walks out to the front porch to talk to the potential predator, she is at the outer range of the receiver. As you'll see, we get through it all and ultimately scramble to get another audio board.

    But there are more surprises.

    For the first time, we have neighbors in the area walk by the house unhappy with the fact that there is an investigation going on. Usually the neighbors are passing chocolate chip cookies to us over the back fence. Here in Murphy, a city council member was apparently upset that the police chief did not inform him of the investigation in advance. He rallied some neighbors to parade outside our house. This obviously would have been an inconvenient time to have one of our guys show up.

    Within an hour things calmed down and we resumed. (Police tell us that later, after they gave an explanation as to exactly how the investigation was being conducted, some neighbors who were initially skeptical were more supportive.) In spite of all this, 25 men were caught in our hidden camera investigation. And as you'll see -- they come from all walks of life including some surprising professions.

    The investigation in Murphy, Texas airs tonight 8 p.m. Tuesday on NBC. Click here for a video preview of some of the men we met there.

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  • 13
    Feb
    2007
    6:35pm, EST

    Seven guilty pleas in Georgia

    Seven of 20 men in the Harris County, Georgia leg of the 'To Catch a Predator' investigations pleaded guilty yesterday. They were sentenced to prison plus probation.

    Click here to read the full story from the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer.

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  • 8
    Feb
    2007
    9:18pm, EST

    A “mea culpa” from one of the men in the last ‘predator’ report

    Today, one of the men featured in our "To Catch a Predator" report posted a "mea culpa" on his Web site.

    28-year-old Alvin King was seen in "To Catch a Predator" Long Beach last Tuesday.  He  was arrested, although he never entered the undercover house. He was picked up by Long Beach police at a nearby park as he met a decoy pretending to be a 13-year-old girl.  We later learned that he runs a site featuring pictures of women's feet.

    He pleaded no contest to one count of an attempted lewd act upon a child, and to  one count of attempting to send harmful matter.

    He posted this message on his blog:

    I have received quite a few scary messages from people out there; but there have also been quite a few bright spots; from people who understand what it is that I'm trying to say.

    "Again, none of this absolves my actions; I know what I did was wrong; But I do want everyone to know that I am not a pedofile. That's not what motivated my actions at all."

    For those who have requested - The chat log is on the perverted justice website. I will decline to post a link, as I do not want to send taffic their way (voluntarily).

    I'm sorry for what I've done. I regret putting myself in this situation; the rest of my responses will have to be limited on this issue; you are all welcomed to share your thoughts.

    For those who are curious, below is the first part of their chat log. The difficult thing about producing "To Catch a Predator" is that it's hard to get across how graphic and disturbing these chats truly are. If you read the transcript below, it's clear that King starts the conversation, knew he was talking to a 13-year-old, is aware of "To Catch a Predator" on NBC, and is the first one to turn the conversation graphic and  sexual.

    solepleaser (09/08/06  6:39:36 PM): hello
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  7:26:55 PM): hi
    solepleaser (09/08/06  8:50:26 PM): whats up
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:35:37 PM): hi
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:35:54 PM): whats up
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:36:00 PM): nuthin
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:36:04 PM): hang on a sec
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:36:13 PM): ok....
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:36:18 PM): you've had me on hold alll day though
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:36:22 PM): i dont think im interested now
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:36:24 PM): take care
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:36:32 PM): fine
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:44:56 PM): bye
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:45:04 PM): i hate rude inconsiderate women
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:45:32 PM): im not im sorry
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:45:43 PM): where are u from
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:45:55 PM): cali
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:46:03 PM): where in cali
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:46:28 PM): long beach
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:46:36 PM): oh ok
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:46:42 PM): asl?
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:46:48 PM): 28 male carson
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:46:54 PM): kewl
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:47:00 PM): how old are u
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:47:06 PM): 13
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:47:11 PM): 13?
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:47:17 PM): yea
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:47:48 PM): hello
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:47:52 PM): hi
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:02 PM): do u have a cam
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:48:08 PM): no lol 
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:11 PM): :)
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:48:13 PM): wha u look like
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:21 PM): like a guy :P
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:25 PM): got any older sisters?
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:48:26 PM): lol
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:48:29 PM): no
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:42 PM): i'd go to jail for hookin up with u :P
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:48:47 PM): huh
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:54 PM): i said...
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:48:59 PM): i would go to jail if i hooked up with u
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:49:08 PM): how come
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:49:14 PM): b/c i like to suck on toes
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:49:17 PM): and... ya know
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:49:22 PM): have girls go down on me...
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:49:23 PM): lol thats funny
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:49:36 PM): and if we hooked up.... that stuff isn't legal :P
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:49:50 PM): wuld u tell on me?
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:50:09 PM): more like, u would tell on me lol
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:50:14 PM): what do u look like?
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:50:20 PM): i have a pic on my pro
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:50:45 PM): cool
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:50:48 PM): nice pic
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:50:56 PM): thanx
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:51:19 PM): how tall are u
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:51:36 PM): like 5 2
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:51:47 PM): u like being barefoot I see
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:51:48 PM): :)
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:51:58 PM): how u no?
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:52:09 PM): your myspace
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:52:24 PM): lol u like feet lol
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:52:40 PM): yes
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:52:41 PM): :)
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:52:48 PM): are u a cop
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:52:57 PM): posing undercover to catch "online predators" ...
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:53:15 PM): no wtf r u talking about
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:54:30 PM): lol
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:54:35 PM): don't u watch dateline?
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:54:42 PM): no whats that
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:54:43 PM): just gotta make sure
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:54:47 PM): :)
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:54:52 PM): tell me
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:54:58 PM): it's a show on NBC
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:55:11 PM): they take guys to jail for messing around with young girls
    samantha_gurl01 (09/08/06  9:55:25 PM): no way hahaha
    solepleaser (09/08/06  9:55:41 PM): yes way

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  • 7
    Feb
    2007
    12:10am, EST

    More Long Beach, Calif. behind-the-scenes

    This (live) blog was meant to coincide with the broadcast. 

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent

    7:56 p.m.
    I've read some of your blog comments and a few of you asked me if confronting the men who come into our hidden camera houses gets tedious. The answer is no. Not just because I am genuinely curious about what brought the men into our hidden camera house, but also because of the things these guys admit to me.

    Take the case of one of the first men your going to meet tonight in Long Beach, Calif. Corye Blagg is a former Marine who works for a computer company in San Diego. Blagg told a decoy posing as a 13-year-old girl on line that he wanted to take her virginity in the hot tub. But when I start asking the questions, he says he was just coming over to hang out. He also tells me that this isn't the first time he set up a date with someone he met online, although he says the others were of legal age. He even makes a surprising admission: that one of his dates ended up being a transvestite. He told me that he politely declined the transvestite's offer and scooted out the door and you won't believe what else he's about to admit to me. Later Blagg pleaded no contest to an attempted lewd act on a child.

    8:11 p.m.
    One of the benefits of working with Perverted-Justice is that because it also conducts online investigations on its own, in some cases PJ has already had contact with a man who later shows up in a Dateline investigation. Such is the case with 29-year-old Farzad Kalantari. Kalantari arrives at our house after a sexually-charged conversation with a decoy posing as a 12-year-old girl. When I confront him he, at first says he thought the girl was 14. Then, he says he was just coming over to teach the girl about the importance of a good education. When I ask if he's ever chatted online with underage girls before he says "no." What he doesn't know is that PJ has already told me about a chat he had with one of its decoys posing as a 14-year-old girl two weeks earlier. This is when his story really starts to unravel. Eventually Kalantari pleads guilty to an attempted lewd act upon a child.

    8:21 p.m.
    It's still startling to me that more and more of these guys walk right into our house and immediately try to show some sort of physical affection toward our decoy. Watch as 27-year-old Josiah Walker does just that with a decoy posing as a 13-year-old girl in our Long Beach house. He swoops right in, but when the decoy back peddles and I enter the room, he steps back. We're about to be presented with a challenge though because as I am asking Walker about his obscene chat and he's admitting to me that in fact he had planned on spending the night-- there is another man heading toward our front door. Walker leaves out the back and is arrested by police. Moments later here comes 26-year-old Joshua Larios. Online, Larios had asked a decoy posing as a 13-year-old girl to expose herself to her father and her teacher. He's explicit about the sex acts he wants to perform with her. But once Larios sees me, he bolts. And because many of the officers are still in the back of the house, he actually makes it to his expensive Lexus. As you'll see he won't get far. Larios and Walker have both pleaded not guilty to an attempted lewd act on a child.

    8:38 p.m.
    Sometimes things happen during these investigations that are impossible to predict and that makes it critical for us to think on our feet and react quickly. That's what we do when we hear that 48-year-old Frank Sierras wants to come meet our decoy posing as a 13-year-old girl. As it turns out Sierras and Perverted Justice have a bit of a history together.

    8:45 p.m.
    We've come to find out that Sierras was chatting with our decoy weeks earlier leading up to our previous investigation in northern California. And wait until you get the story on how PJ first came in contact with him. PJ says he solicited one of its decoys two years earlier before any of our To Catch A Predator investigations. (Sierra was never arrested or charged with a crime in that instance and said he was innocent.)

    Unlike many of the other men in this investigation though, Sierras didn't want to come to our house. He wants to meet in a nearby park. This is always a tough call because if we hustle hidden cameras, the decoy, and me to the park and he doesn't show up, we could miss other men who will show up at the house. We decide it's worth taking the chance. It takes about 40 minutes to get everyone in position. We were on the lookout for a white SUV, the vehicle he told the decoy he'd be driving. Instead he arrives in a rental car, so we don't notice until the very last second that he's approaching our decoy sitting on a picnic table. We figure he must be the right guy. I head over to confront him and he bolts… right into the arms of the Long Beach Police. Sierras pleaded not guilty in this case but you're about to hear that he has a criminal past.

    8:50 p.m.
    A final note: Just two weeks after our investigation, officials in California strengthened the laws against adults who target children online. The new laws protect all minors up to the age of 17, and prosecutors say it should now be easier to win convictions in these types of cases.

    9:10 p.m.
    In our investigation in Long Beach, of the 38 men who were arrested, the district attorney decided to prosecute all but three. Under California law, attempting to have sex with someone under the age of 14 is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison.

    Of those who were charged, at least 12 of the men have pleaded no contest.  They have been sentenced to probation ranging from three to five years.  And some of those men will be permanently registered as sex offenders.

    As our series "To Catch a Predator" continues, next week we'll be setting up a house in the lone star state -- Murphy, Texas. You'll meet men ranging in age from 23 to 63, successful businessmen to unemployed, a middle school teacher, and an assistant district attorney in a nearby county who refuses to open the door for police and later makes a tragic decision.

    Most of the men say they really weren't going to do anything, tune in next week and you decide.

    Thanks for writing in. Keep the comments coming...

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  • 6
    Feb
    2007
    5:19pm, EST

    A 'predator' meeting at a park

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent

    Long Beach, California is our eighth "To Catch a Predator" investigation in two years. You'd think by now that potential predators would get the message -- not so.

    In Long Beach, we saw the second highest number of men in any of our previous investigations. 38 men showed up in three days. 35 of them were charged with crimes including an attempted lewd act upon a child. So far, 12 of them have pleaded no contest or guilty.

    We did see something in Long Beach that we didn't see in our previous investigations and it forced us to adapt behind-the-scenes: Some of the men, perhaps having heard about our earlier shows, were afraid to come to the house and instead wanted to meet at a different location.

    Take the case of 48-year old Frank Sierras. Sierras had been caught by Perverted-Justice a few years ago allegedly having a sexually charged online chat with a decoy posing as a 13-year-old girl. That was before Dateline's investigations. (Sierras was never arrested or charged with a crime after this first alleged conversation with Perverted-Justice, said he was innocent, and threatened to sue Perverted-Justice for posting a transcript of that conversation.)

    Late this summer Sierras surfaced again chatting with a decoy pretending to be a 13-year-old girl during our Petaluma, California investigation.  He never showed up at that house.

    He kept chatting with the decoy though, who now told him she was visiting friends in Long Beach. Perhaps because he'd been caught by PJ before, Sierras wanted to meet our decoy at a park near our Long Beach house. We scrambled to set up cameras in and around the park and get our decoy in position. According to the chat log, Sierras discussed driving the girl home – all the way from Long Beach back to northern California, offering to take her to Disneyland along the way.

    As you'll see tonight, not only did he drive 300 miles to Long Beach -- he also took several steps to cover his tracks. In the end, it doesn't work and Sierras is arrested, but not before a tense conversation with the decoy and a dramatic confrontation with our cameras. 

    Part 2 of the Long Beach "To Catch a Predator" investigation airs tonight, Tuesday, Feb. 6, 8 p.m. Click here to watch Chris' chat with Meredith Vieira (on TODAY this morning) about the upcoming report.

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  • 6
    Feb
    2007
    5:10pm, EST

    But my kid is more Internet-savvy than I am…

    Jesamyn Go, Dateline Web producer

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  • 30
    Jan
    2007
    11:55pm, EST

    Predator: Behind-the-scenes in Long Beach

    This (live) blog was meant to coincide with Tuesday's broadcast.

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline Correspondent

    7:54 p.m.

    We've just come off of an eye-opening investigation in Petaluma, Calif. and are now in Long Beach, Ca. Once again we tried to set up the house so that my confrontations with the potential predators would be outside on the back patio. The weather cooperated. The sound of jets taking off and landing at two nearby airports did not.

    Plan B, as you're about to see, is to set up a bar and stool inside the house. As a location, Long Beach was perfect: easy to get to and surrounded by several major metropolitan areas, but inside the house we're a bit cramped, so much so that a few guys actually spot some of our crew and try to make a run for it. One guy though, who stays and talks to me for several minutes tries to defend one of the most frightening chats I have read during the first eight "To Catch A Predator" investigations. His real name is Michael Warrecker, but his screen name is "can_I_rape_you_anally." Brace yourself for what you're about to hear, it's rough stuff, but important we think in order to understand the potential threat this man represents had there really been a 13-year-old girl home alone. What amazes me is that as I am talking to him is how casually he reacts to the things he said online, almost as if everyone on the Internet talks this way.

    8:10 p.m.
    It seems to me that more and more of the guys who come into our hidden camera houses quickly realize what they've walked into, sometimes because they've actually seen some of our previous investigations. Take for example one of the next men you're going to meet. He's a 36-year old musician whose screen name is "sugardavis." He chats online with a decoy who says she's a 13-year-old girl about smoking pot and rubbing oil all over each other's bodies. He shows up without the pot, but has everything else needed for the planned sex party.

     It turns out "sugardavis" says he's in counseling because he's met others online for sex. He chats with our decoy, a young looking actress for a few minutes before I also walk into the room. I'm not sure you'll be able to pick up on this watching on television, but it was clear to me that he recognized me immediately. It was almost as if he's seen a ghost. He says one word: "nooooo" and bolts. He won't get far.

    8:21 p.m.

    As many times as I have seen it happen, I still don't understand how a grown man with young teenaged kids can justify a sexually explicit online chat with another young teenager and then show up presumably for sex. Most of them seem to know intellectually that it's wrong and against the law, but somehow they must compartmentalize their lives in away that justifies their behavior.

    Take for instance 44-year-old Robert Salinas who chats with and then visits a girl who he thinks is 13. In his chat he says "I could get in trouble for  making love to a minor." Salinas tells me he has just finished making a service call for the copy machine repair company where he works. Online, he says he has to pick up one of his own kids at karate practice but finds time to pick up sandwiches for our decoy.

    Watch as he, like so many other guys, walks in like he's right at home. Salinas admits that what he's doing is wrong and suggests to me that getting caught is a "wake-up call." That's probably true -- but not as much of a wake up call as he's about to get from the Long Beach Police.

    8:45 p.m.
    Sometimes in our investigation we have so many men show up that we don't have time to put each and every one in our programs. That's what happened early last year during our investigation in Riverside County, Ca. 

    There,  more than 50 men showed up and were arrested. One of the men in Riverside who didn't make it into the show is a man named Michael Siebert. He was one of the guys you sort of feel sorry for because they seem a bit slow, but a clear case of why a guy like him could still be dangerous.

    Fast-forward 8 months from our Riverside investigation and here we are in Long Beach. Guess who's chatting about sex online with a decoy posing as a 13-year old?

    Unbelievably he tells our decoy he can't come over Friday because he has a court date. Later, we'll learn that it's a court date stemming from his arrest in Riverside.

    On Saturday night, however, he's in our living room looking for the girl with whom he thought he was chatting.

    I say to him: "you know we've had this talk before." He curses, apologizes and promises he'll never do it again. In a moment, you'll hear about a third criminal case in which Siebert was charged. This one resulted in a year in prison.

    8:55 p.m.
    Next week you'll met a guy who is no stranger to Perverted Justice decoys -- and as you'll see, he'll stretch the resources of Dateline and the Long Beach Police. 

    Hope you'll join us again on-air and online next week. And don't hesitate to send us your feedback, below.

    Editor's note: Here's some Web-exclusive video -- a video blog of Chris and Lynn Keller, one of the producers behind the series. They talk about the feedback they've received re the show... and how they first reacted when a man stripped naked in one of the reports.

    Also, many of the comments below asked about the absence of female predators in these reports. We've addressed this question in a previous blog entry. Check it out.

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  • 30
    Jan
    2007
    10:30pm, EST

    Producer's notes

    by Meade Jorgensen, Dateline producer

    When I was asked to work on the "To Catch a Predator" project, I didn't know what to expect.

    I flew into Long Beach a couple of days before the shoot was supposed to start.  When I got to the undercover house, I was amazed by the amount of work that still had to be done.
    Mitchell Wagenberg and his team of "Street Visions" technicians were scurrying all over the place.  They were wiring up fifteen hidden cameras, and just as many microphones to get ready for the first "visitor."

    As they always do, the "Street Visions" guys got it together in time.  The "Perverted Justice" decoys were chatting with men on line and our live decoy actors were ready.  Along with Chris Hansen and more than 20 people crammed into the house… I waited for our first visitor.

    As I began to read through some of the chat logs, I saw one of the challenges of this story right away.  It would be difficult to let our audience know just how lewd and terrible some of these online chats actually are.

    With good reason, we wouldn't be able to quote a lot of the obscene material in the chat on broadcast television, nor show the graphic pictures some of the men sent.  It was going to be tough to communicate how these men were talking--- to someone who said they were under 14 years old.

    But I didn't have much time to think about that, because our first visitor showed up pretty quickly.  A man who used the screen name "can_I_rape_you_…" was coming to the door. 

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  • 29
    Jan
    2007
    9:17pm, EST

    A repeat 'predator' in our eighth investigation

    by Chris Hansen, Dateline correspondent

    Some of the screen names are as frightening as the conversations the potential predators are having with the young teens they think they're talking to online. A 29-year old unemployed computer technician is using the name "can_I_rape_you_" in a sexually charged conversation with a girl who told him she was 13. In graphic detail, he lists the sex acts he wants to perform with the girl. When she types back that it sounds like some of them could be painful the man responds "ya, but it's a good pain ya know."

    Of course the girl is really a decoy with the online watchdog group Perverted Justice which has again teamed up with Dateline for another "To Catch A Predator" investigation-- this time in Long Beach, Ca.

    The potential predator, Michael Warrecker later tells the decoy: "I like rape" but, then explains that he doesn't really want to rape the girl "just rough sex…I'd want you to resist and pretend that you don't like it and stuff." He also tells her: "I might want to cut you a little…suck on your blood lol."

    Later, when he shows up at our undercover house for his date, I confront him and he tells me he was just coming to "hang out." That excuse, however, does not explain the scary movie, video camera, and lubricant he brought with him. Warrecker has since pleaded no contest to charges of an attempted lewd act on a child. He received credit for 120 days time served in jail, has to take sex offender classes and has to register as a lifetime sex offender. Any violation and he could face four years in prison.

    Warrecker is one of 38 men arrested in the Long Beach investigation, our eighth. It ends up being a challenging three days for the Dateline crew and for the Long Beach police which ran a parallel investigation and arrested the suspects once they left the house.

    One of the issues in Long Beach is that several of the men have apparently seen some of our previous investigations and once they figure out what they've just walked into and answered my questions, they don't want to leave. They know what's going to happen next.

    Such is the case with another man you'll meet in Long Beach. He's actually someone we've met before. When 26-year old Michael Siebert walks into our house, we know all about him. Unbelievably, we'd met him before. Eight months before Long Beach, Siebert shows up in our Riverside, Ca investigation. I confront him and he's arrested and charged. On the day before he shows up in Long Beach, he's in court on the Riverside charge. He even talks about his court date in his chat with the decoy posing as a 13-year-girl. Siebert's lawyer told us he has severe mental issues and has pleaded not guilty to in both cases.

    And while he may appear to be a sad case, we find out he's served a year in prison for a dangerous assault and Perverted Justice tells us that he has had at least three other sexual chats with decoys posing as underage girls.

    As you'll see on Tuesday's report, Siebert won't be the only man who has been caught chatting online with young teens before. You'll also meet another potential predator in Long Beach who has an elaborate plan for a young girl, a plan that involves a lot of travel.

    There's also a "To Catch A Predator" first: While we are working in Long Beach, someone-- we don't know who-- has found out we're in town and posted a warning on the popular website CraigsList.

    Inspite of that, we saw the second highest number of men in any of our investigations.

    The "To Catch a Predator" report from Long Beach, California-- Dateline Tuesday, Jan. 30, 8 p.m.

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