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I just watched the piece on John the father from Virginia that had his child kidnapped by a Utah adoption agency and the state of Utah. I only hope that many more people that are outraged by the apparent disregard for a parents rights will write their senators. After watching this piece I have no doubt that the state of Utah has enabled the kidnapping of this baby and countless others. I can only hope that the US Supreme Court will have the fortitude to hear this case.

vr,

Len

    Reply#1 - Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:16 PM EDT

    took a phone call right at the end of segment and didn't hear court's final decision. i'm led to think john was denied his rights. having spent the last 17 years in a mormon run city in arizona, i know john is fighting a losing battle. every judge, lawyer, adoption agency and adoptive parents in this case are mormon. they are not going to turn over one of their own. plain and simple. you'll never see an lds turn over a child being raised to a non mormon. it won't happen. when i saw the female judge interupt john's lawyer? she was arrogant as hell. even his attorney appeared guilty contronting the court representing a non mormon, never mind, out of state person. growing up outside of boston, i had no idea how these republican states are run and how this religion truly works. it's an eye opener. not only do they only take care of their own, they are bigoted, though claims they aren't. just look at the number of whites vs. other ethnic people. i've heard members even admit being uncomfortable around non whites. and when they do have them in their groups out here, they are delagated to do all the menial work around them. i've seen it. and yet, they have great christian values of love of family, no drinking and drugs, and a brainwashing system that appears to work, keeping each other's backs, so they can grow and become successful. the men do, anyway. the women are encouraged and persue careers, as long as they marry and reproduce. i digress.

    john will have to take this to the US supreme court to have any fairness. and the more time that goes inbetween only works against him. i feel horrible for john, he's fortunate to have a wonderful mother who stands by him and deserves to be dad to his child. hopefully he can move on and start his own life and have a wonderful family someday. he needs to do this. and his pain will not be in vain. possibly thousands of young men in his situation will now be aware if they hear utah adoption, and know what to do. the girlfriend's parents? evil control freaks. they have no right to be judge and jury on this young man and his family's strife. i respect john and his mom for their valor.

      #1.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:24 AM EDT

      hey lets put in the usa con ta we are now able to tex vote

        #1.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:59 AM EDT
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        It would appear that the state of Utah operates more like a CRIME SYNDICATE than a state with laws!  I am truly enraged by the utter callousness of the Attorney General, the "adoptive parents" (in parentheses because they are NOT parents!) the smug chief justice of the Utah Supreme Court & the A Act of "Love."   (LOVE???  HA!)  

        Why can they not be prosecuted under RICO laws?  It got the MOB, why can't the RICO statute bring down the organized crime of baby kidnapping that is not only allowed but ENCOURAGED by the state of Utah?

        I am BOYCOTTING Utah.  No skiing, no film festival.  No Utah products.  No hiring Utah graduates.  I am amazed this can happen in the USA.  

         

         

         

         

          Reply#2 - Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT

          47 states yes

            #2.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:00 AM EDT
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            I believe that Utah's laws were made because of the Mormon dominated Legislature wanting to favor LDS(Mormon) Family Services and its adoption system. I worked for them, and was disgusted. They are all about getting babies from anywhere they can get them, and placing them with LDS families that have been through their temple. It has to be temple Mormons, none others will be considered.

            The significance of that is that Temple Mormons have to give ten percent of their money to the LDS church every year. The more babies the LDS church gets away from others and bring to a Temple family, the more future money they stand to receive. And LDS Family Services has adoption agencies all over the country. They place a lot of babies.

            I know first hand that LDS Family Services will lie and hide the adoption from a birth father. I have witnessed it. It is a despicable adoption factory run by the LDS church. Utah's Mormon legislature probably crafted this law to favor LDS Family Services in their scheme to make babies future Mormons.

              Reply#3 - Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT

              absolutely, well put anon. another who witnessed first hand their shrewdness to have more mormon babies.

                #3.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:33 AM EDT

                This is a horrible injustice for this father who did not relinquish his rights to his daughter at any time. On the contrary he did everything he knew to keep his child. It seems to me there should be National laws which govern adoptions in all states making it clear exactly how to contest any adoption. Some day this little one will know that though she was raised by adoptive parents whom I'm sure love her dearly that she also had a birth father who fought tooth and nail to keep his little girl! It's sad that this kind of thing ever happens, it places a dark shadow on adoption.

                  #3.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:19 AM EDT

                  in every kid napping theire is a master brain that suggest to make new rule to collect theire prouduct they all ways make a mistake they go for none propet but what was the intent of the none profit to kid nap my opeion is stop them the court now no matter how many lawes that was ritten from this was ritten to kidnap only good news i got for you john i am from new kent va my faimly was born into from a rebel wroung as they their intent was they belive in rights an the surpeam court has to decide that the people that started this were bad guys

                    #3.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:15 AM EDT

                    as all ways follow the guy that came up with a leagel way to kid nap but blood is not none nagoshaeabule you know its all ways abount the the money he was trying to make money show misin tent to kid nap as a corpation its in the bye laws of intent cia fbi local law inforsement state corp good luck hang in theire an reright the law for at least one yeare to keep bad man from hurting our kids that is not ritten you may not take my child also i have not walk on water eather i have mad mistake i have nevery intented to ever hurt any one i realy just wont every body to love every one jease die for our sin he just wanted us for every one to love miss him money is eveil no its who use isit

                      #3.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:39 AM EDT

                      lets right a new law only 47 states con adot uta kid they cant raise them any moore

                        #3.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:03 AM EDT
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                        It amazes me that a birth mother has full right to abort her baby----father has no right in this---but we question whether she can find a good home for her? There was a case in Utah where the father was filing a petition to prevent his wife from aborting their child and during the court lunch break she went to the doctor and had the abortion. What are they going to do, put her in jail? I was surprised at the drama and sympathy of Dateline toward the birth father.

                          Reply#4 - Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:23 PM EDT

                          hey the father can do it to

                            #4.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:39 AM EDT
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                            It amazes me that a birth mother has full rights to abort her baby----father has no say in this----but we question whether she can find a good home for her? There was a case in Utah where the father was filing a petition to prevent his wife from aborting their child and during the court lunch break she went to the doctor and had the abortion. What are they going to do, put her in jail? I was surprised at the drama and sympathy of Dateline toward the birth father.

                              Reply#5 - Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:31 PM EDT
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                              I couldn't believe the gull of the state of Utah, It basically kidnapped a child from the state of Virginia. I can see if they were residents of Utah, but only the adoption took place in Utah. I really think the Federal Government needs to look into this, its like Utah is another country, they can kipnap children from other states and basically say ignorance of Utah's Laws are no excuse. I never knew Utah was a Jackel state, I guess their trying to bring in new blood, to much inbreeding in the Mormon population. I think Virginia should have say-so over this matter, or have the Federal Government decised on which state has authority in this matter.

                                Reply#6 - Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:48 PM EDT

                                any excuse for another mormon baby to be raised out there.

                                  #6.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:39 AM EDT

                                  also to be kid nap

                                    #6.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT
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                                    are you fn kidding me??? this baby was born in virginia and some bs adoption agency pimped this baby out to some pitiful desparate snobs who can get knocked up!!! this is unbelievable in this day in age... and that utah atty. gen. john ? is a fn kidnapper too. he needs to be lynched as he's a joke, and he's snickering at the biological father... i started watching this after it began, but was the mother 18 - a legal adult when she gave up teh child.............. ahhhhhhhhhh don't you have to have consent from both biological parents????? 20 days to claim your child just because you're not married....... what a fn joke........... this @!$%# needs to be brought before us supreme court. ...........utah can suck a dick!! ignorant @!$%#s

                                      Reply#7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:46 AM EDT

                                      utah should be kicked out of the us........ the people who adopted this stolen child should give it back to the biological parents now!!!!!!!!!!! and go adopt another child, perhaps one from a foreign country or one where the parents have truly stated they are in agreeance with giving up to adoptive parents... shame on the adoptive parents ---------- you have kidnapped someone's child! this baby is not yours so give her back now!!!!!!!!!!!!losers.... she will resent you in the end................. do you really think she won't know what you've done??????????????

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                                      Reply#8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:55 AM EDT

                                      hey just found another bad guy theire some in texex too that why the treese in lousinia lean west because texex s u c no just wanting to succead back hoe men need jobs dig a caneal around tex let all good usa citon leave first then shovel off play the star spangel banner an god bless the new usa vote for dayland amendit no paid lobest hey f a c e b o o k

                                        #8.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:48 AM EDT

                                        hi to you the word deabater are you going to work yourself out of a job i got a case were is coming up an when i set it for trail the judge seem to not like me as a home owner for not coming up to him without you he did not like me asking procedures question please don't let the supreme court get involved because its a 4200.00 dollar case if i recurshim the other Jude's will no i be coming just for fun i promise not to get involve will take a crack at it think for your great coment no lobbyist dayling msnbc

                                          #8.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT
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                                          can someone please replace the atty. gen. of utah........... i've never felt so strongly about something than this bs situation.......... utah is so messed up..... good god..... when is the us supreme court gonna handle this @!$%# up???????????/ attention us justices:::: get off your ass and act now!!!!!!! how much more of this crap are you gonna allow?????????????/

                                            Reply#9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:58 AM EDT

                                            John doesn't indicate, to me, anything that would recommend him as a parent. I don't think he really has the child's interest in mind and only wants to be the focus of media spotlight. I fully support parental rights for fathers, but only if they have taken responsibility from the beginning. He didn't carry the child. He didn't support the mother during her pregnancy by either marrying her or paying for anything. Utah may need to reconsider their laws, but I can't believe they are wrong in what they believe.

                                            Furthermore, whoever gave out patient information at the birth hospital should have been fired at the very least and probably should be open for prosecution under the violation of the HIPPA law. At the very least, the hospital should have received a severe penalty for violating federal law.

                                            As an adoptive parent, I can only imagine the fear and horror the adoptive parents are going through. Birth parents have rights, but only within reason and this man goes way beyond reason. He lives in lala land and needs to get his own act together, get a job, an apartment and move on.

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                                            Reply#10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:08 AM EDT

                                            Valerie, is your sense of justice, fairness, compassion and empathy completely broken?

                                            The adoptive parents are probably pretty good parents, but why does that matter when you cheated and stole a baby?

                                            If the Dugard kidnapper had actually been a good parent, should it all have been forgiven and decided that it wasn't a big deal? It shouldn't matter how good of an adoptive parent you are, if you lie and cheat to get a baby, you should lose it.

                                              #10.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:25 AM EDT

                                              no he john is only just good for seed an life

                                                #10.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:51 AM EDT

                                                i hope i am not beeing to mouth the but if we now have the best chance every to get thing stright bye starting with life if we make this wright e v e r y thing else has to change the next person logs own we are counthing on yyyyyyyyyyyy oooooooooooooooo uuuuuuuuuuuuuu think for all of us

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                                                #10.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT
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                                                i wanna drive to Utah and intimidate the hell oout of the adoptive kidnapping idiots who have this baby in theipossession

                                                  Reply#11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:09 AM EDT

                                                  sucead with tex i think is better

                                                    #11.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:53 AM EDT
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                                                    I have big problems with this case - the child was born in Virginia not Utah, there is proof that the mother knew that the father wanted to raise the child -it is in her handwriting. This adoption agency says they will do anything - anything to arrange an adoption - that is one sign of kidnapping being legal in their mind only. If I was going to arrange an adoption in Utah it would not be with that agency - how many other babies have been kidnapped to make another couple happy - and how much did it cost. The emotional costs on the birth family is so unfair and the agency should be taken to task for their part in this. This is a definite case for adoptive parents = be aware of where this child is really from. There are so many children who deserve their birth parents - and this father appears to have proven he is fit - good luck in federal courts.

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                                                    Reply#12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:09 AM EDT

                                                    sorry may i add also good luck in the usa frome 47 state

                                                      #12.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

                                                      hey bye any change dose this mean any mother take a child 17 years 11 mo 29 days can adopt the child out

                                                        #12.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT
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                                                        For those who are having a hard time comprehending that Mormons could really control so much about how laws are passed in Utah, "More than 80 percent of Utah lawmakers are LDS."

                                                        If the LDS church wants to make it easier to take babies and make them Mormon, they have the overwhelming numbers to make the laws as they see fit. It's a strange state, and a strange religion/cult.

                                                          Reply#13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:20 AM EDT

                                                          Has anyone considered going after this from the viewpoint of the child's rights, which have clearly been violated?

                                                          The child is denied the right to know his/her biological parents.

                                                          The child is being denied familial genetic information which, because of the current state of medical knowledge and technology, could be life threatening.

                                                          The Utah Law takes the child's rights way more seriously than it takes the rights of a natural father.

                                                            Reply#14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:20 AM EDT

                                                            I think the Headline should have been "LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW ADOPTION DOESN'T WORK" How do we force children and parents to live apart and say it is in the "best interest of the child?" How do we enter other countries to teach "freedom & democracy" when we can't (or won't) even protect the innocent children in the U.S. who are SOLD to abusive, alcoholic families who only need the child's monthly check? When will we stop hearing the horror stories of starvation, sexual abuse & physical abuse of our innocent children? When did the U.S. become "baby brokers?" God help us! God protect the children! God bring justice to all those who have suffered the loss of their child and continue to fight to regain their God-given rights to their blood.

                                                              Reply#15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:33 AM EDT

                                                              Utah has subverted parental rights and legalized human trafficking. Sincere sympathies to the fathers and families whose children were kidnapped. I hope the U.S. Supreme Court will hear this case and strike down Utah's outrageous and self-serving adoption "laws".

                                                                Reply#16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:40 AM EDT

                                                                Thank you DATELINE for exposing this racket. No justice. The amount of time passing before the child is restored to the father is proportional to the eventual emotional cost in turmoil to the child. I hope that compassion prevails and there is a return swiftly to the father.

                                                                  Reply#17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:45 AM EDT

                                                                  17 years 11 mo 29 days follow the money

                                                                    Reply#18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:03 AM EDT

                                                                    I hope that the United States Supreme Court will hear this case and all others like it. I think that all federal funding should immediately cease to Utah until these laws are changed. I don't want my tax dollars funding a state that has legalized kidnaping. Also, the Utah attorney general should resign. How callous a man he must be with his own children and have no empathy for other fathers. Thank you Dateline for exposing these people.

                                                                      Reply#19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

                                                                      Like Frank Zappa said: "it can't happen here".

                                                                      Perhaps a good place for Utah to start changing its laws would be to:

                                                                      (1) Provide a much longer period for the father to assert his parental rights, (20 days is a ridiculously short

                                                                      time).

                                                                      (2) Require official notification from the adoption agency, or even the state of Utah, to the father that adoption may take place. ( a text message just doesn't cut it).

                                                                      (3) Provide that the State of the baby's birth has primary jurisdiction, and that without approval of that State no adoption can take place.

                                                                      Anything else?

                                                                        Reply#20 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

                                                                        An act of love my a$$. It's an act of kidnapping. These people are not running a adoption agency, their running a legalized human traffic agency under mormon (Utah) law. I can not understand how the federal government allows this to happen. A babe born in a state other then Utah, by parents not from utah, be kidnapped by utah law. What has happened to this country? They say justice is blind and it doesn't see color. They got the blind right, but it sees one color real well, green. My dad always said that a rich man would never be put to death in this country, and like always, he was right.

                                                                          Reply#21 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:49 PM EDT

                                                                          I watch dateline with my girlfriend every
                                                                          Friday night and I was irritated over this piece. I agree with John that he
                                                                          would be a good dad. It does not matter how rich or poor you are. As long as
                                                                          you have love and support, kids will live a rewarding life. When my daughter
                                                                          was born we talked about adoption but thank goodness we did not go down that
                                                                          road. Kids bring out the best in parents. Sorry no offense to you Valerie, but
                                                                          the adopted parents could have done a better job coming to a mutual
                                                                          understanding with John and gave him at least visitation rights, and the
                                                                          adopted parents failed to do so. If the adopted parents were good parents they
                                                                          would have at least let John see his daughter. Still I think that the state of
                                                                          Utah failed John over his rights as a parent, and the adoption agency did as
                                                                          well, just because he had 21 days to sign something? They should at least give
                                                                          parents 3 months instead of 21 days. The Utah Supreme Court has only one
                                                                          argument that John failed to submit paper work on time? That is not an
                                                                          acceptable excuse for the court and they should be ashamed of themselves. Also
                                                                          the lawyer who defended the adopted parents, and also wrote some of the
                                                                          adoption laws should be put behind bars. What gives him the right to make
                                                                          people suffer to protect his only ideology? He is a disgrace to this country
                                                                          because he bends the laws to support his own ideology, and that is not freedom.
                                                                          I hope the Supreme Court intervenes and resolves this issue in favor of John, it
                                                                          sounds like kidnapping to me and justice must be served. I support you John!!!!! Keep fighting the
                                                                          good fight!!!!!

                                                                            Reply#22 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:23 AM EDT

                                                                            complete bull@!$%#. anyone can see that. this is whats wrong with the whole entire government. someone needs to step in and grant custody to this father. there shouldnt be 1 state out of 50 that has such a different method of laws. for the most part every state should have about the same laws. and obviously utah hasnt been reviewed or supervised because it is going way out of line from what america is supposed to be. ppl take their unwanted children and send them off to utah in spite of their ex bf or husband because they know that utah is a loophole in the way that adoption works. that means that utah is going completely away from our democracy and they are becoming their own government. therefore in order to keep democracy in the u.s. the government needs to step in and make some changes within this state. this is completely wrong and it is just a part of the reason why many ppl are losing faith in the usa.

                                                                              Reply#23 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT

                                                                              I have never left a comment of any sort for any issue on the web, but this one touched me so deeply, I had to say something. I am the adoptive parent to two beautiful children. Both of my children were adopted as newborns, straight from the hospital, here in the US. But, the similarities to this story end there. In all other states, a biological's father is fully recognized, as it should be. I was fully aware that when each of my children came into this world, they did NOT YET belong to me. They fully and rightfully belonged to the biological mother AND father. It was their right to keep that child or give that child up for adoption. As much as I fell in total and complete love with each of my children the minute I laid eyes on them, I fully embraced the law that I did not yet have legal rights to those children. I understood and supported the biological parents. They would have had the right to say no to the adoption. And I would have accepted that. In both cases, both the biological mother and biological father fully consented to the adoption, under the strictest of laws, meaning no duress or any pressure was put on either to approve the adoption. One day, this child in this story will grow up and inevitably ask questions about their biological parents (my kids are 5 and 4 years old and they are already showing some curiosity towards that). What will this couple tell this girl? That she was literally kidnapped out a side door of a hospital as her desperate daddy (true daddy) tried everything to see her and take her home? What an utter and complete delusion this couple live in (hard to believe an educated PhD can be so dumb). They made a deal with the devil and will in time pay the price. This child will grow up and learn the truth and the day of reckoning will come. As for the whole adoption process in Utah? Unbelievable! Is it really even constitutional? This adoption was based on complete fraud from the get go. And the Utah Attorney General's response to the whole thing? Hey, John and all the other poor Dad's featured on this show missed the 20 day deadline. Oh, and this is the law. This is a legalized from of kidnapping. I am sure that John will win the civil lawsuit. And hopefully put the adoption agency out of business. And I do hope that the Supreme Court will hear this case.

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