Apr. 1: 'Mystery in Effingham County'

Three people are gunned down, two fatally, in a quiet Georgia town. Dennis Murphy unravels the layers of a mystery that took the lives of a husband and son, leaving a mother devastated and a family torn apart.  The two-hour report Mystery in Effingham County airs Friday, April 1st, at 9pm/8c.

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I am a member of the family. They are cousins. I am totally disgusted that Dateline is airing this. The trial was just finished and the murders were not even 3 years ago.

    Reply#1 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:27 AM EDT

    It is news material, it was posted on all the local newspapers when it happened and on the local television stations at that time. Why wouldn't a news show air this kind of thing happening? You are interested in what goes on in the community you live in. So I don't see why you are so offended by this being aired on t.v. When a case goes to trial, it becomes public record at that point and time. You can't hide tragedies when they happen, that is part of the news that people are interested in!

      #1.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:35 PM EDT

      You should be disgusted with Georgia law enforcement - from the investigators to the DA - they couldn't find a murder on death row.

        #1.2 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 10:51 PM EDT
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        I beleive the family has to grant permission for Dateline NBC to do this story, in fact they usually interview the family members and local people and friends.

          Reply#2 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:10 PM EDT

          Dateline has to get the permission of the family and they do interview the family members.... be mad at your family members not Dateline...

            Reply#3 - Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:41 PM EDT

            I'm from Effingham County ... it's just sad all the way around. Sad that the county I grew up in is being highlighted for this tragic event. Sad for the families that were affected by this tragic event. It's time for healing.

              Reply#4 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

              I just wish Dateline would hurry up and post it online! Same goes for 'Written in Blood', that aired months ago, Dateline people! Pretty please...

                Reply#5 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 9:06 PM EDT

                I think the wife wanted to see which brother had the bigger package. that crazy ho!

                  Reply#6 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:18 PM EDT

                  I suspect these disgusting redneck cows are supporters of the McCain/Palin family values crowd-let's support tax cuts for the top 2% of Americans even though we all is poor white trash and can't get over the fact that we have a black president.

                  The slutty women in this family who spread their fat, white china doll legs for everything with a penis can burn in hell!!!

                    Reply#7 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:25 PM EDT

                    First of all morgan-3260171, your an idiot. Second, the Heidt family are not 'disgusting redneck cows'. Never have been. I have known them my entire life, and guessing by your Michael Moore type copied statement, they have probably worked more in 5 minutes than you have in your entire life. Just because one member of the family had a unfortunate lapse of judgment, and messed around with someone he shouldn't have, doesn't mean the rest of the family is 'white trash'. If this happened to your family, I'm sure you wouldn't want a lot of outsiders judging your family. Keep it to yourself, moron!!!! I am waiting for you to fire back!!!

                      #7.1 - Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:29 PM EDT

                      morgan the top 2% are your president and his boss nancy pelosi who made laws to allow them to get insider trading tips(which by the way, is against the law for you and me and the stock market) only not for congress and the pres? open your eyes dingbat.they can lose all the money they want on the stock market because idiots like you vote them in and keep them there. then you are too stupid to see that the tax payer bails them out with bonuses?(not you) (you don't deserve caps either)you are too stupid and a follower of cnn and sln and cnbc which only talks about conservative mess ups and puts true family values and capitalism down every chance they get? hmmm? kinda like you just did you ignorant follower? move your dumb ass to greece or spain. i just left there? try that socialism you moron? and when the workers get tired of supporting the non workers (even without our country going bankrupt: who will work to pay for these programs dumbass?they didnt go bankrupt over there by the way??) theygot bailed out::: a big part by you if you work and pay taxes). i don't want to call you names but it seems that's all you liberals understand? i know::: i'm not allowed to say that about you only you are allowed to talk about me that way? even though i probably pay a lot of your bills? food,clothing,housing(soon to be diapers) your cell phone bill probably? and by the way if you knew what you were talking about you would know these people in this real life show have to be liberals because if they were conservatives they couldn't go for the sarah palin values and do this crap because they wouldn't be cheating you dumb ass. they would have family values and morals? oh i forgot i'm talking to a liberal? you probably don't have a clue what i'm talking about do you? they don't let you know? that would turn you into an educated american?

                        #7.2 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:04 PM EST

                        Morgan? If You love Your kids, nieces,nephews,sisters, brothers, or friends you should look in the mirror and see (for Your sake) what God will judge? I can prove to You He is there and watching You....and I pray You just bet me? I'm no preacher I've been to prison, and lied and cheated my whole life some way or another. No I'm not perfect. I'm just educated. I feel You don't really want to hurt anyone but You are just following the trend. kinda like buying whats popular cause You want to look good to Your friends (who are uneducated)Yet they want to JUDGe about what they Know nothing of)? Can You be strong enough to bet and do Your best to be honest with yourself??? truth to yourself (not to me) If so??? Here is Your PROOf-----Take 3 months and make yourself read the Bible? Here is the beginning of the truth and your PROOf ____The evil one will attack you in (4) ways at least right away when You start to read because it doesn't want you to know the truth: NUMBer 1) If you are trying to quit (drugs) or (drinking) or (cheating) or (lying) or (stealing);the DRug of choice will show up(FRee too)(watch and see), the sex will be (easier and better) steeling will be a (piece of cake) lies---You WIll (have to lie to cover previous lies many many times,or to protect someone else. It will look like You are doing the good thing but You will question it... ( it will haunt You after You come to the good side of God(bet on it)(just to make You feel You aren't worthy when You look back)Don't worry just keep reading.You are worthy.(WATCh and see??? Start in the very beginning and don't stop till You have read at least the whole book of Genesis. You wont want to stop then. The exciting Books really kick in about the time You get to Samuel 1 and 2 (king Saul and David and Goliath times)and from then on.You should probably skip Chronicles and go back later if You want to know where Jesus comes from? jump into proverbs and psalms if u get bored after reading at least 1 whole page first if You have to. It will show what the world should be like. loving and peaceful.That is #1 of the 4 first ways evil will try to stop You from being educated by The Most action packed and interesting book Ever to be read!!! once you can read it You will understand.. #2) You wont be able to understand the Ye's , thee's , and thou's. Ye means You and yours (You), Thee means you and yours (You) and thou means You and yours (You). # 3) You will get very tired and fall asleep at times right there reading. make yourself read on as soon as you wake up. even just a half a page will help. then keep pushing Yourself to read every waking moment at home. Turn the idiot box off and read. # 4) You will see things You question right away and all the way through. This doesn't completely go away. Ever.. Some will be answered right away some never some will the more You read and become more educated... (However keep reading.) If You are strong enough to make Yourself read and cut that TV off then This is when You will start to see the light!!! it will start to come to You and answer your questions now. Do this for 1 month and i promise You will believe me. It will show you many good things. I am not good. I am a bad and dirty person.(but I know it and admit it)You will see we all are and more importantly You will see what is happening to our country and humanity in general now,and that it has happened many times in history?Many many times.All because people didn't work for what they got and became dependent on their leaders to take from the workers and not give anything back? I hope You understand? Leaders don't know how to make a country rich and strong? they need workers (and brains)to do that? look at bees and ants? the queen doesn't do the work? The workers do that and there are a whole lot of them; the workers are healthy and many many more than the needy always?((the needy get killed and cleaned out))?in socialism and communism it has to be that way also. There is no way 1/2 the population can sustain both halves??? I pray we all wake up and the (Not Needy) get to work and dont take extra for a Bullcrap job they are doing?Unions are meant to do good things for the workers and people but when they (as now) kill our country by paying non productive workers more than the productive competitive workers that have to perform (just so they can get more dues and favors and just get richer and more powerful it has to end)ANd it will. good or bad ending is up to the greedy? (The govt and Union leaders are the true 1 % and we must not allow it anymore?) Obama and Pelosi will not change this? They are getting too rich and if the crap hits the fan like they are trying to make it? Well they will just take their riches and go to some nice little island or some country that likes to see us fall and thanks and protects them for causing it.You will not get a check (worked for or social security or disability or welfare) in 5 years if obama is re-elcted. watch and see. China will not bail us out. we owe them everything already. do Your homework and come back at me? I will prove it to you. I don't want you as an enemy. I want You as an educated American with a voice. (Educated) Yes (educated)...

                          #7.3 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:32 PM EST
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                          she needed him for support, what about her huzband. she left security for a loony toon with a mullet. and I know that they are sanctified every sunday in church. crazy jezebel!

                            Reply#8 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:26 PM EDT

                            I couldn't have said it better, Morgan 326

                              Reply#9 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT

                              Hi Karla--what is it like to be related to such a disgusting group of redneck freaks?

                                Reply#10 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT

                                I suspect you're a super-loose and poorly-educated w hore like the rest of your people!

                                  Reply#11 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:30 PM EDT

                                  morgan-326. I am Karla's Father. She happens to be married to a Heidt who happens to be a great guy. You are wrong to assume that everyone in a family is the same or that just because someone happens to have the same last name that they are just like the other one. I happen to know that Karla is not super loose or poorly educated. And she is not a whore. I would appreciate it if you not say such awful things about my daughter again. Think about how you would feel if someone talked about your daughter that way. Your words are on the verge of slander.

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                                  #11.1 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 4:02 AM EDT

                                  morgan-326. I am from Effingham County. Some people aren't rednecks here. We actually are one of the fastest growing populations in the US. We also probably have a better school system than what you have in your county. I personally knew the Heidts and they are and were a good, God-loving family. Yes, Robin and Craig shouldn't have done the things they did, but you don't need to go around and say that our county is poorly educated or super loose.

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                                  #11.2 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 8:22 AM EDT

                                  Dad, thank you for the response.

                                  Morgan...I would like to point you to the 200+ years of Heidt family history in this country. The Heidt patriarch Israel Christian Heidt came to this country in the 1730s to help found Georgia Colony. One of his sons John George Heidt came a few years later in 1749. John's son Christian fought in the Revolutionary War so that you can enjoy the freedoms you have today. There have also been members of the family who have fought in every other war through the years to preserve that freedom. Also, throughout the family in every generation there are lawyers, doctors, and ministers.

                                  Also, Phillip and Carey were well respected members of the community. Phillip and Carey worked together in the real estate company that Phillip owned.

                                  I'm not going to respond to your vulgar, childish slander about me because my father responded to that very well, but instead of speaking out of ignorance, you should go find out what google is and what it does and use it before you open your mouth about things you don't even know about or understand. The heartache that this whole thing has caused the family and all the children involved is absolutely horrible. Seeing some drive-by want-a-be journalistic smut show making ratings on other people's misery and suffering is obscene. I don't know if you work for the show, and can't handle criticism, or what but the first amendment works both ways. The media has the right to print the news and WE THE PEOPLE have the right to say when the media is doing something sensationalistic that's nothing more than a shock value ratings grab instead of actual news and journalism. This crime by one person doesn't even represent the smallest fraction of the fine upstanding Christian people who have contributed so much to Effingham County, Chatham County, and Georgia, as well as the country in war and peace for over 270 years, so besides the fact that your comment is ignorant and vulgar and absolutely indefensible, you have absolutely nothing to do with it and you have no right to slander someone who takes the whole thing very personally and is very bothered by it.

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                                  #11.3 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 11:48 AM EDT

                                  Amen, Karla! I'm so sorry for your loss. My family is from that county too. Lots of wonderful people live there.

                                    #11.4 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 1:02 PM EDT
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                                    Actually, the murder doesn't shock me as much as the fact that mullets are still popular. business up front part in the back. currly pubic-like hair; THAT'S HOT!!

                                      Reply#12 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:31 PM EDT

                                      yikes! these people make my family seem totally uptown!

                                        Reply#13 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:32 PM EDT

                                        What a tragic story. That Robin is a piece of work, isn't she? She seduced her brother in law. She had sex with Craig in her in-law's living room while they were there. She shamelessly continued the affair with Craig after the affair was discovered, and her husband had shown that he still wanted her and their family. She continued to pitt the brothers against one another, instigating the murders that ensued. She collected the insurance money from the murders she instigated and ponied up $60,000 for the brother-in-law's defense. She showed no remorse during her testimony. As far as I'm concerned, she wanted them dead as much as Craig did. What a heartless, shameless, woman. May karma smile down on her like the burning sun.

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                                        Reply#14 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:32 PM EDT

                                        voyeur234 I couldn`t have said it better myself . Absolutely

                                          #14.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT

                                          Amen, I totally agree with everything you said! (to: voyeur234)

                                            #14.2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT

                                            I agree. She had a beautiful family, husband provided for her., according to dateline, her husband took the 3 million life insurance policy out of her name prior to his death,,,thank goodness....

                                              #14.3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:46 PM EDT

                                              Everyone saying that we are a bunch of freaks and rednecks, well lets just say that we moved here about 3 years ago from NY and I would never want to live anywhere else again. What happened here happens in your area also. It was a tragedy. The people here in Effingham County have more manners and morals then this whole country does, I am proud to be raising my children here. At least they will not grow up to be nasty people who think of themselves, they will have respect for everyone. I can't say that for most of the people in this country. Effingham County has nothing to be ashamed about.

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                                              #14.4 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 9:00 AM EDT
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                                              I can't believe that adultress whore had the audacity to sit up on the stand and testify about anything. The fact that she slept with her husband's brother shot any credibility she had. She is the TOTAL cause of this WHOLE mess. What a whore. I hate women like that. The family should NEVER talk to her again. Cheap slut.

                                                Reply#15 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:33 PM EDT

                                                Hey CRAZ in DC keepin' it real in upper NW DC here!

                                                That broad on the TVeee looks a lot like a redneck Monica Lewinsky!

                                                  Reply#16 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:34 PM EDT

                                                  Oh great, living in a hunting shack, making love under the tender gaze of dead dear. now that's romantical!! ooooh baby, baby!

                                                    Reply#17 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:35 PM EDT

                                                    Hey Karla Heidt, the people in your family are sperm-burping redneck, inbred, and filthy whores!

                                                      Reply#18 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:35 PM EDT

                                                      f--- you,morgan.leave the girl alone.

                                                        #18.1 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 8:01 AM EDT

                                                        you are a disgusting internet troll, and if you don't work for the show you should, you'd fit in just fine. You probably live for shows like this, feeding on other people's tragedy.

                                                        I have also reported your post as inflammatory.

                                                          #18.2 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT
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                                                          This shameless whore starts an affair with her brother-in-law and then has the audacity to sit on the stand and testify against him as if she didn't know what he was up to? She tore that family apart. They should NEVER EVER talk to her again and sue her. How is it she has any credibility to testify about anything? She has already proven that she has no morals. What a whore.

                                                            Reply#19 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT

                                                            I Agree Shalisha that whore should be on Trail her self for adultry .And that family should run jezebel off before any one else gets hurt ???And from what i thought i heard on the court stand is that she used her dead husbands insurance money to pay for Cregs defence what did she stand to gain here ? what if she did the murders and blamed it on the ex husband ? She seems to be a good lier as it stands . Shame On The whore . And there will be Judgement Day for Jezebel !!! one fine day . Jesus don`t like adulterers its one of the First commandments . they shelt not commit adultry !!!! Linda the survivor our prayers are with you sister & Your family , I pray for a speedy healin . Im sorry you had to go through this may God Bless You And Keep You .

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                                                            #19.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT
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                                                            I don`t thinbk Creg did the murders or at least not by him self ? I can see the slut at least kept it in the family obviously has no morals . There will be judgement one day by father God ! I think the greedy slut Whore did it ? .She was already using insurance money ? Didn`t she give a testimoney in court that she paid 60,000 for Cregs lawyer ?? or something ? She played that family yes i agree Crazy Jezebel ! Shame On You  Jezebel .

                                                              Reply#20 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:39 PM EDT

                                                              Karla, I just read your post. You're disgusted that Dateline is airing this story. You got it wrong, I think your disgusted and mad because dateline didn't interview you for the story. so you wasted $25 on a new perm and dye job. get over it.

                                                                Reply#21 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:41 PM EDT

                                                                My hair is naturally curly so I have no need of a perm and I don't need to dye my hair. Also, I live in Texas and I'm a distant cousin of the ones who were murdered. I have no interest in being interviewed by Dateline. If I was interviewed, they wouldn't like what I had to say.

                                                                I am disgusted and mad because now this story is all people will think about when they hear about Effingham County, GA or when they hear or think about the Heidt family. The case is done and over and it's time for the media to sit down, shut up, and let the family get back to grieving for those pillars of the family who are no longer here. Personally, I think Robin should have been tried also.

                                                                  #21.1 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 4:33 PM EDT
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                                                                  I know that's right, Salisha. I could say it better myself.

                                                                    Reply#22 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:44 PM EDT

                                                                    Did Robin get the 3 mil, if so can I get her number?

                                                                      Reply#23 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:06 PM EDT

                                                                      Did Robin get the 3 mil, if so can I get her number.

                                                                        Reply#24 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT

                                                                        Wow. I just watched this and came to my own conclusion: where the hell is the evidence this man actually did anything other then sleep with his brother's wife? No DNA, no finger prints, no blood/hairs/anything other then a bruise, some questionable statements and a stupid decision to keep it going with his wife's brother after his brother/dad get killed and mother shot.

                                                                        What I'm even more annoyed by is the fact the police pretty much focused on him and ignored other brothers/cousins/family members and even neighbors/clients of the father. Seemed like plenty of other people in that area had a motive to kill and yet the police thought a story about 'brother cheating with brother's wife leading to anger that somehow caused him to kill his family members' made sense.

                                                                        And the sad thing is police do this all the time. I saw a similar show last week that had me come to the same conclusion: WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? Come on, how the hell do you trial a man for MURDERING TWO FAMILY MEMBERS without anything - DNA, finger prints, hair, even a witness other then the cheating wife?

                                                                        Who knows though - I don't live in that town, I don't know any of those people and probably it was dateline that messed something up - like the ending being a bit strange. "The jury was 4 to 8 at first - 4 guilty, 8 not guilty. Jury member 1: "Oh yeah no evidence man, I can't see this dude doing this anyway". 2 minutes later "DEFENDANT GUILTY". Huh? Jury member 2: "Oh yeah everything pointed towards him". That made no sense at all. How does everything point toward the brother in-law yet there's no evidence and quoting one of the jury members "I can't see doing this over just anger".

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                                                                        Reply#25 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT

                                                                        I feel asleep in the last half hour but it look to me like there was not enought evidence.

                                                                          #25.1 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 12:03 AM EDT

                                                                          Circumstantial evidence is direct evidence of a fact from which a person may reasonably infer the existence or nonexistence of another fact. A person's guilt of a charged crime may be proven by circumstantial evidence, if that evidence, while not directly establishing guilt, gives rise to an inference of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

                                                                            #25.2 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 1:53 AM EDT

                                                                            This confused me also. Hard to see the majority not guilties changing thier minds for anything less than the 4 guilties were not going to change and the jury basically didn't want to be there until the judge declared a hung jury. I think this man was found guilty simply so the jury could go home sooner.

                                                                              #25.3 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 2:08 AM EDT

                                                                              That is it in a nutshell. It is all about prosecutors getting a conviction period. It does not matter if they are innocent or not. That is why dna has gotten so many out of prison and death row. If you are poor you have to have a public defender who works for the district attorneys office . they control the paycheck.......get it...? The system is very sick. Two guys who did not know each other in Cailf. got the death penalty for killing a cop in San Diego. The were convicted as partners. 17yrs later it was proven one of them was in county jail at the time of the killing......

                                                                                #25.4 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 11:41 AM EDT

                                                                                mdogs1 you are right!!!! The police didn't look closely at other suspects, like for instance, Robin Heidt's brother who suspiciously just hangs himself in the barn a week or 2 later after these murders took place. That looks like Robin's work to me!!!! Not the work of a son, who although was exiled from his family, because of an affair with his sister-in-law. This family was very close, they went to church together, ate dinner together, worked together, and just did a lot of family gatherings together. Craig, is not a murderer and nobody has proven this with any scientific evidence. To me there would have to be something on his person, auto, or home that would have clearly pointed at his guilt. Show me this and I Will Believe.

                                                                                And to those who are wandering, no I don't know the Heidts personally, but I do live in Effingham and I have been here for the last 12 years. Effingham has it's short comings yes, but you can't show me a community that doesn't. I have followed this case from the day it happened and I believe that the police focused too much on Craig and didn't take a look outside that box. I believe that we all will find out later, that this was hatched solely by Robin Heidt for the insurance Carey had and her bother who killed himself was the one who carried out this slaying. I could be wrong, but he was never looked at as a suspect, but was questioned and days later hung himself.

                                                                                And to the uneducated fools, from God only knows where, their is a majority of prominent business people who reside in this community. Unfortunately, for your parents and you all that your education hasn't reached the level of this community's. I hope God will bless you for your on short comings.

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                                                                                #25.5 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT
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