Jan. 28: Written in Blood

A Michigan family is torn apart when a mother and father are found dead on the floor of their garage. Dennis Murphy reports on the various challenges and missing pieces of the investigation, and why detectives suspected someone within the family.  Join us this Friday, Jan. 28, at 9pm/8c for Written in Blood.

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Our homes should be where we feel the most safe. It's also, where we are more relaxed and subseptical to becoming a victim of an attack from someone. Our guard is totally down at home and I've noticed that most people leave their doors open. I do not! It is important that we always keep our third eye open. I don't suggest not relaxing and enjoying yourselves, but to become more observant to the comings and goings of others. Always have a dog at your home,and you will have a lookout. I have several dogs and since they were pups, they have been instructed on what their job is, to alert me of anyone around our house and I will take it from there. It horrible that in American, we a subjected to this type of cruel, vicious, and hateful behavior from others.

    Reply#1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:09 PM EST

    This should be the most horrible crime in American. To have someone come up to or into your home and kill you. OMG!!!!!! The death penalty should be manadory in every State for the convicted criminal that does this. Something has to be done to eliminate this type of crime. I am sick and tired of hearing about wonderful people who are assets to the community and everyone surrounding them, that become victims of this type of cruel, vicious and horrible act. The criminal act directed at the victims sets off a ripple effect and it will touch hundreds and thousands of people before the calm of it. There is never closure for this. My heart aches for the family of these precious people.

      Reply#2 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:36 PM EST

      I am sorry for the families lose, but I don't appreciate the way the reporter said that Eastern Market was in a bad neighborhood. It isn't of course you wouldn't want to be out around meat packing factories alone at night. And those poor people were killed in their home in the suburbs not Detroit. Unfortunately bad things happen to good people everywhere.

        Reply#3 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:19 PM EST

        yes its ghetto infested area with definite mob connections!

          #3.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:41 PM EST

          This man killed his parents. I think both brothers are guilty and did this together. The guy is a drug adict on vicodin and his brother looks like one too. Drug adicts are dangerous.

            #3.2 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:17 PM EST
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            yes its ghetto infested area with definite mob connections!

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            Reply#4 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:46 PM EST

            you are about the dumbest muther fu**er on the planet, this happened in the suburbs, not the ghetto ahole

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            #4.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:15 PM EST

            GOD YES A mobster. It's a shame that's the comment that is showcased when you go to the comment section.

              #4.2 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:54 PM EST
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              you are about the dumbest mother f**ker on the planet, this happened in the burbs ahole

                Reply#5 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:18 PM EST

                  #5.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:09 PM EST
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                  I think I figured out the message written in blood on the garage floor. I think the message is written backwards because the person on the floor couldn't see what they were writing (maybe writing above their head even): read the message backwards and it says: r j ' s

                  So its not an "n" or an "o" but a backwards apostrophe.

                    Reply#6 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:28 PM EST

                    Why didn't the police get a search warrant to search the son's car & the house & grounds he supposely was working on & went to after his parents were murdered.? His finances....gambling & etc. ?

                      Reply#7 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:30 PM EST

                        #7.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:14 PM EST

                        I agree with you Mary although I think the finances were looked into. They had a footprint in blood. There was no mention on dateline as to weather they had checked Ron Jr.'s footware. One thing that baffles me is if the murderer returned to clean up the scene, why was the word written in blood only partially mopped up. I would like to take a closer look at the word. Also wouldn't it make sense to find out which one of the victims had written it (which would have been easy with dna) how they may have been lying when it was written and then compared it to each one of the victims hand writting. The second letter in the word looked to me more like an "e" whereas the investigating officer though it to be an "o". Don't most people, when printing an "o" usually start it at the top. I guess it would depend to on how the person was laying when printing it. I think it's possible that the word could have been "Neilson" who was the father's good friend. Perhaps the door stop that he made a second time was actually the original. Wonder if it was checked.

                          #7.2 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:19 PM EST

                          I agree with you that it looks like an "e". The police should have consulted a handwriting expert. Not only because an expert knows basic strokes of handwriting, but also could compare her handwriting to what was written on the floor. Writing in pain will surely yield weaker handwriting skills, but they could have analyzed it better.

                          I would advise them to interview all the employees and their families. It could've been someone they knew, since she wrote a name. Perhaps an Employee was involved. The son, Ron, Jr. was an addict and was drove his employee-friend home often. Could they have stopped by the house and things got out of hand?

                          Was she trying to write Schyller? Or did she write 2 names and someone mopped up one of them and left the other to blame?

                            #7.3 - Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:59 PM EST
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                            Could the murder weapons be in the walls of the house he was working on? Was it ever searched?

                              Reply#8 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:01 PM EST

                              I was wondering that, too. Either the police didn't do all their homework and go over ALL possibilities, or Dateline didn't report everything...

                                #8.1 - Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:33 PM EST
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                                I missed the end. What was the verdict?

                                  Reply#9 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:02 PM EST

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                                  #9.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:16 PM EST

                                  Not Guilty:(

                                    #9.2 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:25 PM EST
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                                    This episode was very disturbing. Physical evidence aside this case could have easily decided by "common sense" alone. What son hears that both his parents were killed doesn't STOP working and at least tell his other siblings that are working with him. Why was his new home not searched? It doesn't take a genius to figure out who did this. The jury only deliberates for an hour? Are you serious? People are still talking about O.J. Simpson? This case is much more disturbing than that will EVER be!

                                      Reply#10 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:06 PM EST
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                                      Just watched this episode and when I saw the blood on the floor I saw Selin, I hope this case is solved soon. I too wondered why the cops didn't search the vehicle, house or shop... Seems to me it was not lack of evidence it was lack of investigation.

                                        Reply#11 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:08 PM EST

                                        Why was Dale not a suspect? I thought the writing in blood could read: "See Dale". I think he was the last to see them alive. Also, the door stop was made by him. Could he have melted down the metal and created a new one? Also, did anyone check the pizza delivery person? And, were the employees at RJ's checked out? Could the son have hired someone to do this? I still go back to Dale. What role did he play in the friendship? Could he have been in love with Mrs. J or having an affair with her? Why was he not checked out? Why would he commemorate the death with a tatoo on his arm...what was that about?

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                                        Reply#12 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:11 PM EST

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                                        #12.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:22 PM EST
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                                        I think the bloody letters (remember it's being written by a weak person on the verge of death) spell "Nelson". I think it could have been the father's best friend, I think his name was Dale Nelson. It looked like the first letter was a sideways N followed by e, l. The next letter looks like half of an s since it was mopped up. My heart goes out to the family.

                                          Reply#13 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:15 PM EST

                                          Terrible tragedy that should not have happened. This prosecuter was way too ahead of himself. Total baffoon! Ronald (Jr.) is totally innocent. The detective is incompetent and the defense were right on. It may come to light one day but certainly not through the shady work of the police department in Michigan. Money brings greed and greed brings death.

                                            #13.1 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:07 AM EST
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                                            I just got done watching this Dateline episode and I just had to make a comment to law enforcment... COME ON ! You seem to always try to close a homicide case quickly by blaming a family member. From an outsider looking in... what I saw written under that Jeep was SALE, meaning the private sale of something. Did the victims have something for sale on-line, like a car or a boat ? The cops should check into the victims personal computer to see if they had something for sale on craigslist or Ebay. Did some nut job come that night to look at what they were selling and flip out ???? Maybe the victims last thoughts were, "How is anyone gonna know who did this, I don't remember the persons name... I'm selling the Jeep, SALE, the police will figure this out, they can look up the IP address of the person who inquired about the SALE of the Jeep." Also, did the cops interview the employee from the meat market that was sent home for to many bathroom breaks. To many bathroom breaks usually means someone is hitting off of the crack pipe too many times...

                                            Anyway.... my thoughts go out to the family. Sorry for your loss. I hope the cops find the real killer.

                                              Reply#14 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:17 PM EST

                                              I think the message was written with the murder weapon. The first letter was written with the horsehoe side of the doorstop. Because, there are 2 matching symbols. This looks like Ns side by side. Then, the doorstop was turned around to write the rest. An e then maybe an l. Its hard to say. But it looks like the writer was trying to write Nelson.

                                                Reply#15 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:18 PM EST

                                                the only lead to the killer now is the bloody footprint!!!!!!

                                                back search from the SOLE ~!!!!!!!

                                                surely, the brother paid for those boots with a credit card.

                                                where are they now?

                                                  Reply#16 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:19 PM EST

                                                  I agree with Bobby. The evidence made me believe it was Ron, Jr. And did they ever look for a shoe to match to the print in blood? The wavy sole pattern could have been enough to match and blood would have been deep in those tracks. The news should have rocked his world if he was the sweet "never hurt a fly" kinda guy. AND ALL THAT VICODIN??????? Why and where did that come from? 3 would snow anyone's mind! He was guilty in my opinion.

                                                    Reply#17 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:21 PM EST

                                                    Oh ya that's what he was on I almost forgot about that. What exactly is Vicodin? Does it cause memory lapse? Can it make a person violent?

                                                      #17.1 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:31 PM EST

                                                      Everyone has different reactions to different opiates. I don't think violence is a side effect of Vicodin. Vicodin is just another trade name Class III narcotic pain medication for the popular generic drug hydrocodone. It's the same as the trade name drug Loratab but I think it's a different company. Both these drugs come mixed with a dose of acetaminophen (Tylenol). Usually 325mgs - 500mgs. Most scripts for Vicodin come in lower doses of hydrocodone, usually 5mg/500mgs. Vicodin does come in higher doses though, but not higher that 15 mgs per pill. What the son possibly described by saying that, "I might have done it but I don't remember." could have been construed as a black out. Much like alcoholics get. Opiates do not usually cause functional black outs. If you black out on opiates most likely you will be incapacitaded or asleep. I think the investigators that had this case did a lousy job. But, keep in mind... the only information we got on this case was what Dateline released.

                                                        #17.2 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:37 PM EST
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                                                        That second letter doesn't look like an 'O' - it looks like an "e"... The first letter looks like a backward 'N'. The 3rd is half of a straight line. Nel... Nelson... Some friend jealously? Last one to see them... no questions about where he went after leaving - what time he got home? Knew the meticulousness of them enough to know the door bar was missing - would know enough to put the mop back... worked on cars... hands pretty beat up...

                                                        On the other hand - first statement from the wife said "he fell asleep around 10:00pm" - second time she said "he fell asleep around 11:30pm." Had to back up the DVR 4 or 5 times to make sure I was hearing what I was hearing!!! If you've DVR'd it - listen for that in the wife's testimony... how on earth does the prosecutor NOT hear that and pick it apart?????

                                                          Reply#18 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:23 PM EST

                                                          i believe the message left by the victims reads JJ Wife

                                                            Reply#19 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:31 PM EST

                                                            The Detective thought the first letter was an S and the second letter was an O. The writing appears to be two lines and the first and only letter on first line as well as the first letter on the second line appear to be a sideways N, and the second letter a small E and the third letter a small L. It looks like the dazed and dying person may have been trying to write N (eighbor) but since it is such a long word they went to the second line and wrote Nels... The neighbor had the most incriminating testimony against the eldest son, and was very familiar with both the garage and the interior of the home, and was familiar with the murder weapon, having fashioned it. He also likely would not have been able to sleep well that night and so would have noticed that the lights were on after 11:30 p.m. and would have been able to sneak over and turn all of the lights off without being noticed. He was also the last person to have seen the couple alive. The motive is unclear, but neighbors can be as close as relatives or lovers and can often harbor passionate feelings. What is strange is that he would tattoo something on his arm and put a public message to the world on the back window of his car. What is he trying to cover up or camouflage? I think the Detectives placed him on their list of credible witnesses too early on and didn't even consider investigating him as a possible suspect.

                                                              Reply#20 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:43 PM EST

                                                              Did anyone try to figure out what was written in blood. I wonder if it is "Nelson" . the friend, who made the murder weapon. The person who wrote this was badly beaten and stabbed, they would not be able to write it perfectly. The S could be an N but sideways and the other letters could spell "e l s" the "o n" is missing-washed away, and there are small blood pools. Just a guess on my part but I did not like the way this guy acted, even after- with the tatoos, etc. Could that be guilt. Some of his statements were proven false (money not a problem at bank). I do not think the son did it. He was taking drugs and was problably dyllusional. He acted stangely after he found out- he was in shock. Someone had time to go back and clean up.

                                                                Reply#21 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:47 PM EST

                                                                If people are try to figure out the writing then forget the N-E-L and just concentrate on the S-O-N. No reason to try and invent things. It was the son that killed his parents. Again it only takes common sense to figure this out!

                                                                  Reply#22 - Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:57 PM EST
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                                                                  They need to look further into the best friend Dale. The "replica" of the door stop could have been the actual weapon and a way for Dale to get the weapon out of his hands. The last 3 letters in the blood look like "-ale". Dale was the last person to see the couple alive, he quickly jumped to pointing out his best friends oldest son, and he broadcast their death by the emblem on his car and the tattoo on this shoulder. Was there an affair going on? Was there jealous? Is it coincidence that this all happened right before the couple was getting ready to leave to go to Ireland? Dale knew the garage better than anyone. His fingerprints would have already been all over the place. The wife wouldn't have been concerned with dale and her husband yelling, friends fight all the time, but once she got to the bottom on the stairs and saw her husband then i think she tried to run to get into the car. I think the police and investigator messed up this case and overlooked the most obvious person.

                                                                    Reply#23 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:57 AM EST

                                                                    I agree - The first letter looks like an N or the first line is S. and then beneath it Sel or NeI. I am intrigued by the writer whose idea was that it looks like "sale" and that makes sense, the victim would not have a potential buyer's name. And maybe they would let someone come by and see the goods on a Friday night even though it was somewhat late. Did they look in the families address book as well?

                                                                      Reply#24 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:38 AM EST

                                                                      The writing on the floor looked like Sale or Dale. Dale was the last person to see them alive, knew what they had for dinner, and I find it odd that he has a tattoo with their name on it. If not him, were they selling something, and the sale went bad? Ugh, this is such a tragedy.

                                                                      The parents, I'm sure, are very proud of the younger son. He is such a sweet kid; the kind all parents dream of having. I hope they catch the person that did this.

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                                                                      Reply#25 - Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:14 AM EST

                                                                      No he's not a sweet kid! he's an actor.... meet him in person, your opinion will change quickly!

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