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Possible suspects, because the stab wounds were mostly around the face, might be good to investigate any past or additional girlfriends of victim's most current boyfriend.

Was present boyfriend dating anyone other than victim? Someone who might have been jealous enought to kill? Also, check whereabouts of boyfriend's mother. Some mothers will kill rather than lose their son.

Polygraph both boyfriend and mother.

Food for thought.

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Reply#1 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:51 PM EDT

You can't force someone to submit to a polygraph and the results are also inadmissible in court. In the Case of the last boyfriend he would have nothing to gain by submitting to one because the police have said he was cleared. Having said that I find it suspicious that for someone who never sheds a tear he did before the cameras. I also thought though that the other guy was faking crying in the interview too- no tears. It looked like bad acting not genuine heartache.

    #1.1 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:15 AM EDT
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    I think the police should focus their investigation on the mother of the boy-friend. The mother's statement that the murdered victim confided in her about the fear she had with her previous boy-friend does not jive with the statement she made to her father about wanting to get back together. But I could be wrong?

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    Reply#2 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:21 PM EDT

    The victim was obviously using her son and the sons connections to advance her own career and whatever else that comes with it. Even though the victim is A problem she isn’t Thee problem, Thee problem was her son and his attachment to the victim.

    The execution of the murder plot is est. at 3-6wks from the purchase of pre- paid cell phone bringing the victims visit to her daddy and the After Christmas trip of Boyfriend and his Family within this parameter. Both have distanced themselves from the situation, be it for different reasons however. She was initially supposed to die 1st workweek after holiday vacation. It only takes up to 48hrs to execute the plan but the hold was due to Boyfriends unexpected invitation To the victim

    If she was initially scheduled to die 1st work week after holiday with boyfriend and his family having Alibis, then the call to cancel and reschedule the crime was made before or at the post -Christmas vacation

    Why does the victim have to die? cause her BF is totally devasted and in the dumps around the Christmas dinner table, She confided in a coworker what she told her friends and the ambitious coworker snitched her off to boss for a chance at better accts that the victim was muscling for herself which is a privilege of being bosses sons gf. She’s in a relationship that would end in devastation for son and/ or a wedge within the family. She doesn’t love him, She’s a bitch

    If my thoughts lead to arrest and conviction. I want the reward if any. Consider my thoughts ESP if it’ll bring me in range of the tip definition. If not I Quit

      #2.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:50 PM EDT

      jcbm2a714 Way to show sensitivity to a family. Talk about being a bitch.

      Also, you might want to take a course on how to articulate your thoughts. That was a jumbled mess that didn't make any sense. Crawl back under a rock now and yes "quit".

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      #2.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:32 PM EDT

      Wrong it does make sence.andI personally am not calling her anything. Why she died, plain and simple is because Someone thought of her in that way.

      1. 6wks prior to Feb 2 is around Christmas

      2. 3wks prior to Feb 2 is week after new yrs

      This is the time frame that the story indicates the prepaid cell phone is purchased ( 3-6wks prior to the murder ). So within this time frame what is going on?

      1. 6 wks ago Victim flies home for the holiday and her dad indicates turbulance in the relationship

      2. police indicate an After Christmas Vacation taken by the family of BF, mentioning the BF invited his GF victim to attend.

      Both sides have distanced themselves from the city within 3-6wks prior to the murder timeframe.

      How do I know She was supposed to die earlier? Cause the killers aint playing As soon as they activate the phone she will be dead within 48hrs from Vancouver . Does it sound right that they purchase the phone and sit on it for 3 more wks? Not that type

      If the victim didnt go on the trip and returned home from her fathers, where would she be? what would she be doing? And if the call came in at that time how is it that she gets to work the acct instead of more senior realtors? How does the queuing process work in her work environment where she lands the acct?

      She' a been dead and her BF and his moms and pops would have alibis

      So you shut up and you crawl under a rock, cause to catch a killer you must be a killer and to tell you the truth. The BF says he spotted 2 ppl other side of fogged glass. If he saw them, they saw him and if I was A killer with a fresh body upstairs and someone showed up, I would have no choice but to let him in and do the deed again. In this case they locked the door, Problem is when and how did they leave

        #2.3 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:23 AM EDT
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        Watching this, the first thing I thought of was--what about the ex boyfriend's then girlfriend, now spouse. If Lindsay wasn't over her "Big" then maybe his girlfriend was terribly insecure of this attractive ex girlfriend who still had some sort of tie to her guy and wanted her out of the picture? Does the girlfriend have money, did anyone check her bank transactions during this time? Was she the jealous type? What about Lindsay's relationship with other men at work who might have been smitten and flirty. Did a jealous wife that knew the real estate business want her away from their husband and any possible temptation?

        Another thought-What about the people who owned the million dollar house? Who were their enemies? What if the murder was a convenient way to send them a message, to ruin them financially by keeping the house from selling and Lindsey was just the real estate agent in the wrong place at the wrong time and it had nothing to do with her? It is obvious that the specific info of needing a house in two days would make vacant houses a priority on the list. Narrow that down to the price range and viola, that house was naturally going to be chosen.

        Finally, who are her parent's enemies? Who would want to punish her father or her mother?

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        Reply#3 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:23 PM EDT

        That is a huge leap.

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        #3.1 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT
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        Boyfriend claims he couldn't get in front door because it was locked. How were the perpetrators able to lock the front door? Most front doors have deadlocks that need to be locked from the outside. He also said he saw them in the foyer so his account would apparently have them exiting that door. Why would the killers lock the door to begin with? Having just committed a horrifying crime, would they bother wasting time locking the door? They must have realized that the victim would eventually be found, so locking the door doesn't really help them. Is the boyfriend telling the truth?

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        Reply#4 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:39 PM EDT

        Has anyone investigated the boyfriend's mother, she had motive to protect her son from harm once she learned that Lindsay was planing on leaving her son. She also worked with Lindsay and would have inside information that would aid in the planing of a murder.

        BTW - Where was the clients car if they were from out of town?

          Reply#5 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT

          I think it was obvious that the mother was lying about Lindsay telling her she was worried about her ex. The mother was either protecting her son because she knew he had done it or she had it arranged herself. Psychopathy often breeds psychopathy. They both looked emotionless.

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          #5.1 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT

          lets look at you,Genious and what you bring to the table.

          Pschopathy often breeds pschopathy.Swoosh wow omg wisdom. it says " A kind of thing often breeds a similar kind of thing " ( Uh DUH ) tard

          Emotionless, Lol

          When BF is doing a walkthrough of the crime scene with detectives and he is at bottom of stairs, that is Emotion. The welling up of eyes indicate hurt just in case you didnt know what welling of the eyes mean. Is that articulate enough, professor dunnoIsh

            #5.2 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:06 AM EDT
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            The video clip on the news report of the victim's death indicates that the victim had a bad feeling about the private viewing and asked that her boyfriend be there at the home. Why wasn't he? As he was a real agent himself, he shouldn't have been concerned about making the potential clients feel uncomfortable. It seems to be a strange coincidence that he was also concerned when he arrived at the home, but only entered the house after the killers left.

            His account of the events just doesn't seem to ring true with me.

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            Reply#6 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:19 PM EDT

            The obvious is so obvious.

            For those of us who have seen the Dateline program on Lindsay Buziak's disgusting trajedy, and we have watched all the visuals and the comments and the body actions etc. of Lindsay's b/friend and his mother, the huge hole created by their mistakes and flaws and blunders and trip-ups and gaffes, is so big you could drive a double decker bus through it.

            I live in Victoria. My immediate BIG concern with this case is: when the interrogations of the suspects or suspicious individuals took place --- were the interrogations conducted by members of the police forces from greater Victoria and Saanich only ??? If that is the case ---- then I am GREATLY CONCERNED. Don't anybody tell me that any of the agents from Southern Van Island are skilled and practised enough to do the interrogations properly. A skilled agent needs to be very alert and must know what to look for with regard to verbal answers and body movements and gestures and must be skilled enough to know when to "jump in verbally" and start "pushing buttons" to cause the suspects to start manifesting obvious untruths and contradictions of previous statements (which the interrogator brings to their attention) which will cause the suspects to get very jittery and "break down" emotionally. Strategy like that leads to confessions ---- and scared suspects wanting to "cut deals" ---- which they pray and hope leads to less jail time. !!!!!

            We need experienced interrogators on this case. Experience from law enforcement agencies who deal on a more frequent basis with heavy crime such as murder ---- and murder mutilation.

            If the agents doing the interrogations, thus far, have been restricted or limited to Victoria police talent --- THEN THAT DEEPLY CONCERNS ME.

            Is it standard procedure for a realtor to enter the house with the potential client purchasers, and then, once in, close and lock the door? That does not make sense to me. So the b/friend, who is there in the first place specifically because his g/friend, the realtor, had expressed >>> concern and uneasiness and "something is not quite right about the needs of the clients" <<< he has made a 911 call to police. That means emergency. Please come asap. Your assistance is needed. So he has made the 911 call. Then he tests the door. It is locked. His brain remembers her concerns. He knocks loudly on the door. If there is no response within 10 seconds. HE BREAKS GLASS TO GET AT THE LOCK INSIDE THE DOOR. He does not go with his friend around the side of the house to the patio area to boost his friend over the wall so his friend can get in from the side and go thru the house and open the front door to let the b/friend in. The "meddling boyfriend" excuse (reasoning) --- outright crap. He is at the house for a specific reason. Concern expressed by the g/friend.

            There are other flaws. Holes. Discrepancies. This case is not about drugs. It is about sex and emotions and pride caused by sex. And a whole lot of anger. Rage. Revenge. If not primary ----- then sex is the secondary reason for the murder.

            My email: one4privacy @shaw.ca

            My thoughts.

              #6.1 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:12 AM EDT

              Maybe JZ doesn't have cable. You sound like you watch too much crime tv.

              But, the tirade was entertaining. It's cute the way you think you know so much more than absolutely anyone. :-)

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              #6.2 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:32 AM EDT
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              I think the whole real estate office where Lindsay worked should be investigated. Wasn't it the boyfriend's mother that owned it? There may have been some dishonest deals going on, maybe Lindsay knew too much. Maybe there was another agent in the office involved in something and Lindsay was mistakenly the one who got it. If so, that person involved in something would not step up and say anything as then they would be in trouble. Has anyone figured out where the woman possibly bought that dress?

               

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              Reply#7 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:01 AM EDT

              I didn't agree with the Dateline investigator that claimed someone who planned the murder wouldn't take a witness with him to the crime scene.

              Before this was even mentioned, I wanted them to ask the friend if it was normal for him to be running errands and eating with the couple. It makes perfect sense as an alibi. The boyfriend would have many more questions to answer if he had found her alone.

              Also, the mother's comment struck me as really odd. It doesn't mean she had anything to do with it or knows who done it, but probably more likely that she suspects her son might have.

              Truly an odd case especially if it was a couple committing a murder for hire. I wish they made mention of how the people who committed the crime got in and out of the cul de sac (automobile?) as it seems that if everything was as presented, they had to leave out the back door.

              Also not sure why the boyfriend got worried about his girlfriend so quickly while waiting on her. Doesn't seem odd to me that if she was in the house with perspective buyers, as he saw through the glass, that he would think something is wrong ten minutes later

              btw screen name was made bc of an earlier episode

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              Reply#8 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:39 AM EDT

              Honestly both boyfriends gave a guilty appearence during the interviews. One of them, I forgot which, sorry, sounded exactly like Joran Van Der Sloot. I find it suspicious that for someone who never sheds a tear the last boyfriend did before the cameras. I also thought though that the other guy was faking crying in the interview -no tears. It looked like bad acting not genuine heartache. Let me know if you caught that.

                Reply#9 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:20 AM EDT

                i thought the ex boyfriend seemed genuine. The almost cry part seemed kinda odd, but people look weird when trying to hold back emotions.

                I thought I saw something in the recent boyfriend that resembled deception, but it was slight, and who am I to make that determination.

                Either way, I try not to base my opinions too much on how I feel someone should act. I think it is dangerous. Take the 2nd part of the episode for instance. The drummer's girlfriend was pretty cheerful throughout her interview.

                  Reply#10 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:39 AM EDT

                  Psychic Information I received after watching show for first time last night:

                  I feel the daughter was chosen as a target because this was a terrible blow to the father, and I believe the killer to be someone who has a grudge against the father.

                  I see a man about the fathers age, say late fourties early fifties he has redish blond wavy hair he is dressed in a Blue and pink plaid shirt and stands facing me squinting at the sun, then I see the killer couple walk up the steps to a business with a heavy mahogany door and an oval shaped glass the length of the door.

                  The woman wears very clean white pedal pushers and it appears to be a high money tourist areas but just where I don't know at this time, just started meditating on.

                  I am hoping the descrption of the man connected to the father with reddish blonde curly hair appears to be well moneyed business type with lots of leisure time and no doubt could be connected to the real estate world.

                    Reply#11 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:01 AM EDT

                    Did you miss the part where they showed what the woman was wearing? Nice try. Her father lives a province away BTW.

                      #11.1 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT
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                      Have the police looked into the possibility that this was a random killing, set up as some kind of revenge on the owner of the house? That could explain the brutality-It will be very hard to sell the house with what happened there.

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                      Reply#12 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT

                      Seriously? Kill whoever shows up at the house just to get back at the owner? There was a plan to kill Lindsay. They called her using a cell phone that could not be traced. It was planned well in advance. Hopefully the police won't get all 'Canadian proper' and will follow up on the boyfriend's mother.

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                      #12.1 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:24 PM EDT
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                      Maybe the daughter didn't have any enemies, but surely the father does and I wonder if he was always bragging about his daughter? Enough to get under the craw of one of his enemies? Then again, maybe the daughter was just too successful in the real estate business for the liking of her competitors. (And it irked them because she was only 24 years old, and of course, a petite woman in an isolated place would be an easy target.) I would check to see what houses she had listed and who exactly had lost out on those listings. Same for sales. What house did she sell that some other real estate agent thought should be his/her sale? And maybe it WAS a WOMAN who hired the hit, since a man would've had the brawn to do the job himself.

                        Reply#13 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT

                        You brag too much about your kid so I am going to slaughter that kid?

                          #13.1 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT
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                          I agree with a lot of the comments, I too thought that there may be a tie-in to someone else and that a murder in this fashion has to have as its aim "sending a message." But the question is to who? I also think it odd that the boyfriend drove around the house, and did not enter it as his girlfriend did invite him to be there.

                          Question. As I watched this last night, the time line put the murder in the 10 minute range - clients arrived around 5:30pm, unanswered email sent around 5:38, boyfriend arrived around 5:41. But depending on how many wounds was inflicted on her, and I am thinking that they had to be more than 10 or 20?, she would have had to have been attacked almost just after the clients arrived. She shook their hands, turned to lead them into the house, and then she was grabbed?, and stabbed?

                          But this timeline gets weirder as one of the headings for the video says that the police were called at 6:11pm. That is thirty minutes after the boyfriend arrived at the house.

                          Then, the clients walked away? They didn't drive to the house? Did they rent a car? If they walked away from the house, then I would think that there is a local element to their being. I mean, we already know that she went to Vancouver, so why couldn't someone from there go to Vittoria, or Vancouver as well? But the localness of the crime may be a bit more than that. The clients either had transportation near, but not at, the house, could get a ride (even with blood on their clothes? If they did not have someplace to go to change clothes.), or could get a taxi.

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                          Reply#14 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT

                          I also thought I saw a brief clip at the end of the show with the recent boyfriend and his mother. The recent boyfriend looked like he was wiping tears away, his mother looked at him, and right away decided to act like she was crying also and wiped her hand across her face. Looked phony to me.

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                          Reply#15 - Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:41 PM EDT

                          Continuing with my theory of the murder was a message to the owner of the million dollar house. The body was not found in the entry. It was found upstairs in a room. Was this specific placement and whose bedroom? Also, the ex boyfriend is now married to the woman he was dating at the time of the murder. I just think that angle should be investigated because a jealous insecure woman can be vicious.

                            Reply#16 - Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:18 AM EDT

                            When I first heard the statement from the victim that these people had a funny accent, I thought to myself why?? That was a dead giveaway.

                            I believe that the killers we're the two people & that they we're hired by someone that wanted to get back at the owner of the house.

                            They wanted to give the house a bad rap, so they couldn't sell it. I believe she was the innocent victim that was used in this game & that she didn't know her killers.

                            I say check out the owner's enemies.

                              Reply#17 - Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:43 AM EDT

                              To stab someone in the face repeatedly does not sound like the actions of someone wanting to get back at the owner of a house. It was someone who hated the victim.

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                              Reply#18 - Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:24 PM EDT

                              Why not just burn down the house and try to make it look like it was the owners who did it? Murdering an innocent party just to get back at the owners just doesn't seem plausible. If they're really that angry with the owners, why wouldn't they kill them instead. It's obvious they're capable of it.

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                              Reply#19 - Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT

                              If this was some sort of Mob message to the owners of the house, murdering someone is much scarier than burning the house down. Arson vs Murder? When the mob sends a message someone dies. Just a theory of course, but it wasn't explored on the show.

                                Reply#20 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:55 AM EDT

                                Also--the owners have insurance on the house I am sure, so if it was burned down, they wouldn't lose as much as a million dollar unsellable house where someone was murdered. However, I do agree that the stabbing sounds more like an angry woman, which is why I am also still hung on the ex boyfriend's girlfriend who is now his wife. The mob or similar hit men, would probably just execute someone unless something went wrong. The stabbing sounds personal. Although the boyfriend and his mother did sound suspicous in several things, I just feel like it is some odd ball angle not examined and not them.

                                  Reply#21 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:59 AM EDT

                                  I think Lindsay's boyfriend paided someone to kill her. He had the motive of not wanting her to break up with him. I also think someone like him who shows no emotions could be capable of planning such a deed. I think the amount of times that she was stabbed show rage and although he shows no emotions, I think he could potentially get very angry. I think that his mother helped him because she is also in the real estate business and probably knew best how to reel in a motivated agent. Also I think she lied about Linsay telling her she was afraid of her ex-boyfriend. I think that the text message was sent by the killers to the boyfriend letting him know that the deed was done. It makes sense that he had someone with him because he knew that he had to have a witness to his whereabouts since he would probably be a suspect. I think that he waited outside so long because he wanted to let enough time pass to eliminate any chance that she might survive her wounds.

                                    Reply#22 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:02 PM EDT
                                      Reply#23 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

                                      One theory seems to be 'make the house unsellable'. Does anyone know if the house eventually sold?

                                        Reply#24 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT

                                        I don't think the house ever did sell, and I believe the developer lives there now. FYI, Saanich police say they've received more than 100 tips because of our broadcast, which was seen widely in Canada as well as here at home.

                                          Reply#25 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT

                                          Josh

                                          On the Dateline program you asked the murder victim's b/friend if he often thinks about the victim, his g/friend. He answered ---- not convincingly at all. Suspicion mounts around him. However, Josh, you did not ask the same question to b/friend's mom, sitting next to him. Remember --- she looked over at him and watched him wipe away a non-existing tear and, she decided, that looks effective -- I think I will do that. She did --- but she wiped away at a tear that was not there. Dry eyes.

                                          So, Josh, you did not ask b/friends mom same question ---- any reason why you did not ask ?

                                          I have an email: one4privacy @shaw.ca

                                          Geoff

                                            #25.1 - Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:57 PM EDT
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