'The Best Man': Chat with the filmmaker, discuss the case

Comment on the report, "The Best Man," below. Filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, who is featured in the report, will also be online weighing in on your questions and writing about Andrew Bagby's family and friends' fight for bail reform. He will be live, chatting online from 8 p.m. – midnight PT.

See Kuenne's "Dear Zachary" Web site here. Learn more about bail reform from that site here.

(The full transcript of the hour will be available Saturday Monday. The video of the report will not be available online)

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I wish Dateline would provide this video where my daughter could see it. This story reminded me of my children's biological mother who indirectly assisted my son commit suicide. My daughter just delivered her 1st baby (a girl) & I am very concerned about my ex having a damaging influence on our granddaughter. I'll pray for her, but as David & Kate know so well, God doesn't always protect the most precious among us. Thanks to Dateline for bringing this story to the public & Kurt for showing your love of Andrew & Zachary. TJ, you're a victim too so you shouldn't feel any guilt.

    Reply#945 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:44 PM EDT

    Change for the good can result from this horrific tragedy. Colleges and law schools in the U.S. and abroad need to mandate that all judges, lawyers, guardian ad litems, social workers, etc. who are involved in child custody decisions become knowledgeable about borderline personality disorder/narcissistic disorder. Christine Ann Lawson's book, Understanding the Borderline Mother, needs to become required reading of all persons with decision making power over the lives of innocent children.

    I implore Dateline and wonderful documentary filmmakers such as yourself to address this psychological disorder when airing stories of the women who are committing these horrendous acts. An entire show dedicated to this disorder will go a long way in saving children from the Susan Smiths and Andrea Yates of this world. The key to changing the courts is to educate the courts and the public on borderline personality disorder before another innocent child is placed in harm's way due to ignorance and the continuing misperception that all mothers protect their children. These mothers are so dangerous because their innocent appearance belies the pathology that lies within.

      Reply#946 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:11 PM EDT

      I have been a fan of Dateline for many years and have never seen a program that touched me like Andrews story. How one person could be so evil and cause so much pain is beyond my comprehension. I have one question, I wonder how the doctor that bailed her out of jail is feeling these days?

      God bless You Kurt for being such a good friend to Kate & David. Kate & David you both are truly an inspiration to so many people. It was easy to see how Andrew had such a loving heart and was surrounded by so many people that loved him. You both have touched more hearts that you will ever know.

        Reply#947 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT

        I just watched this story and it is heartwrenching. As a mom and grandmother, I cannot imagine the agony David and his wife went through, but I have imagined that if anything every happened to my children/grandchildren I would feel the same rage, despair, hopelessness as they expressed. I would hope I'd have the same impact by living as they have had. God bless them all. Andrew and Zachary have touched my life tonight.

          Reply#948 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:25 AM EDT

          I was really touched by this story. God bless the Bagbys and comfort them in their tremendous double loss of their only son and then their only grandson. What strong people they are and I admire them greatly.

            Reply#949 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT

            Kate and David, if you are reading this, I am truly sorry for your loss. I watched Dateline all the time and never have I seen anything as gut-wrenching as your story. I cannot imagine the pain you must have gone through. Please know that your incredible strength and resilience have touched many. Thank you for sharing your story and I wish you peace.

              Reply#950 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT

              Thank you so much for having the courage to share this. I cried and realized they truly are here on this earth to show us how strong we can be. Seeing this story has made me push myself further than i thought i could go and hang on when I felt like giving up because of their strength to keep going and perservere made me see that it truly is possible to be that strong. They are such an inspiration and have been through more than anyone should ever have to. God never gives us more than we can handle but unfortunately the pain sometimes get to be too much. I truly do believe now that we are capable of handling what god throws at us after watching this. I want to thank you so much for being brave enough to share your pain and know that yall are an inspiration to millions.

                Reply#951 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:29 PM EDT

                Kurt: Can the Bagbys be reached by mail? A P.O. Box would be great since people could write but would not know where they live. They need their privacy.

                  Reply#952 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT

                  Netflix has Dear Zachary & it gives much more details. You get to find out what happened to the bonehead doc that posted her bail. If you aren't a member of Netflix, ask your local movie rental merchant to get it for you. It's the best documentary I've ever seen, but is very emotional!

                    Reply#953 - Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:20 PM EDT

                    A sleazy CALIFORNIA film-maker, Kurt Kuenne, trying to make money from this crime, tragedy.

                    What a fake & flaky friend to have him, like Kurt !!!

                    KURT is making profits from this crime, and he is morally, ethically & criminally wrong to make a profile from the crime.

                    The Canada Judicial System failed to protect the child. The child should be in the custody of the Andrew Bagby's parents and/or Child Protective Service because this is a criminal case.

                      Reply#954 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:40 AM EDT

                      THE COURT SHOULD GRANTED A FULL/JOINT CUSTODY OF Zachary to Andrew Bagby's PARENTS, KATE & Mr. DAVID BAGBY, and that is the loophole in Canadian Judicial System.

                      It is an outrageous that the Court granted the child to the defendant who is facing the first-degree murder charge.

                      THE PURPOSE OF BAIL is that the court has to determine whether the defendant is NOT THREAT TO THE SOCIETY - - GUARANTEE THAT THE DEFENDANT WILL RETURN TO COURT, NO FLIGHT RISK.

                      The court must confiscate her Passport because Shirley Turner is in a flight risk. I am so RIGHT on this because she fled from U.S. to Canada.

                      ACCORDING to the guideline of Bail post, the Court should NEVER set her bail. This is an outrageous.

                      TO Andrew Bagby's Parents, KATE & Mr. DAVID BAGBY:

                      I am totally lost of trauma that Kate & David are coping with. . .

                      Every breath I take, the traumatic pains of Kate & Mr. David are dealing with . .

                        Reply#955 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:57 AM EDT

                        Filmmaker Kurt Kuenne -

                        You are using Andrew's death to make profits in HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA.

                        CALIFORNIA is the HOME OF THE MOVIE INDUSTRY, a birthplace of Hollywood Movie.

                        Your motivations are to get a trophy from Grammy Award, walking down the glitzy Red Carpet, RICH & FAME, from Andrew Bagby's death.

                        You, as a FILM-MAKER in California, are the vindictive person by using your own friend's death to make profit to be a HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITY.

                        You, as a FILM-MAKER in California, are deceptive and your motivation to make this movie is to make your home as "HOLLYWOOD" life style.

                        You are the Film-maker living in a CALIFORNIA. That is not an coincident.

                          Reply#956 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:26 AM EDT

                          Are you an idiot, The Most Sleazy PD in the World is Oklahoma City?

                          Kurt Kuenne was one of Andrew Bagby's best friends. He originally started making the film NOT for profit but to memorialize his great friend whom he tragically lost. The original film was only to be for friends and family.

                          But when Zachary was born, it took on a new meaning--to memorialize his father's life for the son that would never get to meet his father.

                          THEN, when the stupid Canadian justice system allowed the monster Shirley Turner out on bail to care for her baby (Andrew Bagby's son), she murdered him and killed herself. THEN, and ONLY then did Mr. Kuenne decide to go public with the film--but NOR for profit--but to fund Andrew Bagby's scholarship foundations and to shine a light on the atrocity that happened to his best friend and his best friend's baby.

                          Sorry if I am being harsh but I really hate people that accuse others so strongly (and so maliciously I might add) without having knowledge of the facts! What a loser you look like here.

                          Try to have an intermission to do some research before whatever pops into your silly little head is blurted out of your mouth (or keyboard). Silly, silly, sad, sad man. And YES, I'm talking to you!

                          Shame on you for saying that to the remarkable filmmaker--who dedicated countless hours for his friend. Shame indeed.

                            #956.1 - Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:00 PM EDT
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                            Filmmaker Kurt Kuenne -

                            You are using Andrew's death to make profits in HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA.

                            CALIFORNIA is the HOME OF THE MOVIE INDUSTRY, a birthplace of Hollywood Movie.

                            Your motivations are to get a trophy from Grammy Award, walking down the glitzy Red Carpet, RICH & FAME, from Andrew Bagby's death.

                            You, as a FILM-MAKER in California, are the vindictive person by using your own friend's death to make profit to be a HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITY.

                            You, as a FILM-MAKER in California, are deceptive and your motivation to make this movie is to make your home as "HOLLYWOOD" life style.

                            You are the Film-maker living in a CALIFORNIA. That is not an coincident.

                              Reply#957 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:26 AM EDT

                              Kurt Kuenne - -

                              YOU ARE USING, ABUSING, Andrew Bagby's death to make MONEY in Hollywood. You are using Bagby's death to be a rich - Hollywood celebrity. If you think you are a true friend of Bagby, you would hire the another film industry to make this movie because you have a CONFLICT OF INTEREST, which you didn't. That shows that you are NOT faithful, NOT truthful to Andrew Bagby.

                              True friends do not sell or make money from one of friend's death.

                                Reply#958 - Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:59 AM EDT

                                this was so sad. I read a lot of sad stories but I was totally shocked when I read about the crazy lady killing herself AND her son. Why? Why would kill her son? What would be gained? Selfishness. Some just don't have any conscience AT ALL. RIP Andrew and Zachary. Hopefully a new law will be named after them to disallow accused killers of horrific crimes to walk around al least. It's sad it takes them to make the government wake up.

                                  Reply#959 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:46 AM EDT

                                  kurt kuenne - the worst moron man, kurt kuenne: you are using bagby's death to make money in hollywood. andrew bagby to kurt kuenne: you are not my friend !!!! how dare you pretend as you are my best friend !!! you are the worst man, moron. you are not my friend at all !! ! you are to "con" artist. "con" artist, kurt, how dare you using friend's death to make money in hollywood !! you are nothing but the "con" artist, moroandrew bagbyn, using andrew bagby''s death to make money !! if you think you are friend with andrew bagby, you would not make this "bloody" money from the "dead" friend. kurt - - how dare you making "bloody" money from andrew bagby's murder !!! *********************************************************************************** andrew bagby to "con" artist, kurt kuenne: you are "not" my friend !!! how dare you using murder to make "bloody" money in hollywood!! you are the "con" artist who are using friend's death to make "bloody" money in hollywood!! you are nothing but the fake friend who are using murder to make the "bloody" money !!! you will never, damn sure, get the trophy from grammy award for using friend's death to make "bloody" money !!! you are nothing but the "con" artist abusing andrew bagby's murder. i do not want to have a friend who is "con" artist using friend's death to make "bloody" money. do not pretend as a friend, then sucking up the "bloody" money from dead friend !!! how dare you calling yourself as friend the suck up the bloody money from the dead friend.

                                    Reply#960 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:36 PM EDT

                                    THE "CON" ARTIST, Kurt Kuenne, sucking up the "BLOODY" money from Andrew Bagby's MURDER. . . making money from crime. If you are the " S - -O - -B - - " trying to make BLOODY- BLOODY money from Andrew Bagby's murder and pretend as a friend. A friend do not USE friend's death to make "bloody" money in Hollywood. . You are despicable, pathetic, S-- O - - B who are trying to make "BLOODY" money from Andrew Bagby's murder.

                                    HOW DARE YOU SUCKING UP THE "BLOODY" MONEY FROM THE "DEAD" MAN calling yourself as friend by making money in Hollywood !!

                                    YOU ARE SUCKING UP THE "BLOODY MONEY FROM THE "DEAD" MAN in Hollywood !!!

                                    YOU ARE THE WORST - WORST "CON" Artist in Hollywood by using your own friend's death to make "BLOODY" MONEY.

                                      Reply#961 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT

                                      The WORST "CON" Artist, Kurt Kuenne, making "BLOODY" MONEY from a dead friend.

                                      Andrew Bagby TO Kurt Kuenne: DO NOT USE DEAD FRIEND TO MAKE "BLOODY" MONEY in Hollywood.

                                      The S--O--B trying to make bloody money from a dead friend.

                                        Reply#962 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT

                                        The WORST man, kurt kuenne, is making "bloody" money from a dead friend.

                                        Typical Hollywood "CON" Artist.

                                          Reply#963 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:06 PM EDT

                                          SCAM-ER, Scam Artist, Kurt Kuenne, trying to make money from a dead friend.

                                          This SCAM Artist using Andrew's dead to make BIG MONEY in Hollywood. Your motivations are: to live in a big Hollywood MANSION by using Bagby's death, sucking up the BLOODY money from a dead friend by making this movie. Kurt wants to be a Hollywood Celebrity !!! You are a SCAM artist.

                                          Andrew Bagby TO Kurt Kuenne: YOU ARE NOT MY FRIEND !! You can not make profits from the dead friend.

                                            Reply#964 - Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:09 PM EDT

                                            The "CON" man, SCAM Artist, Kurt Kuenne - - If you want to make movie to dedicate to Bagby's family, you would done this privately, not to publish. You are the S---O---B---, scam - er, who are using Bagbys to make BIG money and living in a Hollywood MANSION, walking up & down glitzy Red Carpet. That is your motivation. That is why you are the WORST con man, Scam Artist.

                                            If you think you are a friend of Bagby, you would give this movie to Bagby's family privately; NOT to publish. By publishing this movie in Hollywood, you are making BLOODY MONEY FROM BAGBY.

                                            Your motivation to make MONEY in Hollywood tells me that you are The CON man, Scam Artist sucking up the bloody money from a dead friend. YOU ARE NOT ANDREW' FRIEND- YOU ARE USING DEAD FRIEND to MAKE MONEY in Hollywood and living in Hollywood Mansion, walking down glitzy red carpet. That is despicable-scam artist.

                                              Reply#965 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:41 PM EDT

                                              A voice of Andrew Bagby to Kurt Kuenne:

                                              Friend is not for sale. By making the bloody money in Hollywood, using friend's death, you are not a faithful, honest, friend.

                                              Me to Kurt Kuenne: SCAM artist taking an advantage of dead friend by PUBLISHING this movie so that you can dream of living in a Hollywood MANSION. Not a chance in a Hell using - - misusing Bagby's death to make BIG MONEY, bloody money in Hollywood. You are FAKE, con man.

                                                Reply#966 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:53 PM EDT

                                                Andrew Bagby to Kurt Kuenne: A FRIEND IS NOT FOR SALE. . . Friends don't sell friend's death to make BIG money in Hollywood and be the Hollywood rich & fame.

                                                  Reply#967 - Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:22 PM EDT

                                                  The CON man, SCAM artist, Kurt Kuenne - - You supposed to make this movie & give it to the Andrew Bagby's family PRIVATELY to honor the victims. Instead you are selling it to public to make MILLIONS DOLLAR in Hollywood. If that is not a SCAM artist, I do not know what it is.

                                                  Andrew Bagby to Kurt Kuenne: FRIEND IS NOT FOR SALE. DO NOT SELL FRIEND'S DEATH IN HOLLYWOOD.

                                                  Andrew Bagby's life is NOT FOR SALE.

                                                    Reply#968 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT

                                                    This movie should be dedicated to Andrew Bagby's family PRIVATELY, PRIVATELY TO HONOR THE VICTIMS..

                                                    Instead this S -O - B, Kurt Kuenne, is SELLING Bagby's death in Hollywood to make MILLION & MILLION dollar. The issue here is that this S-O-B- - trying to make MILLION DOLLARS $$$$ by using a friend's death. THIS MOVIE SUPPOSED TO DEDICATED TO THE BAGBY'S FAMILY PRIVATELY & NOT TO PUBLISH TO MAKE MILLION DOLLARS IN Hollywood. The CON artist is all about making MILLION DOLLARS IN Hollywood.

                                                      Reply#969 - Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
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