Couldn't agree with you more!

Hello I am from Toronto and I was very emotional watching tonight's episode. Kurt, You did an awesome job in filming and catching glimpses of Andrew and Zachary's life. The parents have lost their son and grandson but they can celebrate their lives with this video. Thank you for sharing this with us. There must have been an intuition or inspiration for you to do this film. Thank you for spreading this video that their short lives was not in vain. I am also very proud of the grandparents for being so strong amidst this tragedy, I will say a prayer for them to fight till the end. If anything good can come out of this id that hopefully the justice system will deny bail to unstable people and realize that there is a reason for their actions and they can reoffend. Obviously Shirley committed the murder because why kill yourself when you think you're not guilty. Wonderful job even though it is a sad occasion. Hopefully this will help other families in similar situations. Your work was accomplished and I applaud you from the bottom of my heart.

Zuzka in Toronto

After watching the Dateline story tonight I have been very touched and there are tears rolling down my face as I type this now. Thinking about what happened has touched my heart and I just want to give you your family and friends my love and prayers. I hope one day we can all make sense of the senseless acts of others and can learn to love one another instead of hurting each other. All my love goes out to you, so stay strong I will pray for you and yours in my prayers to come. Melissa

This families tenacity is encouraging to say the least. I am in a similar situation, any advice on how to just get out of bed or to press forward when the cards are stacked against a person. Always the worst of cases are those involving children and knowing within ones heart that they are in danger yet a person can do nothing about it except sit back and watch simply because the law is such that until a person has actually hurt a child or person for that matter, usually nothing can be done.

I too was so touched by The Best Man piece. I am ordering "Zachary's Story". I cried like a baby. I lost my brother his high school year (in an accident), and can understand the family's sense of loss. When you lose someone who has been a major part of your life, everyone involved is forever changed. Thank you, Nightline for such an incrediblely moving piece. Thank you to the family for your honesty. I can't wait to view the documentary.

Did the doctor who posted bail,ever comment after the fact?

OMG!!!! Kurt, I can't express how I have felt since watching this show tonight. I lost one of my twins at the hands of another person, I just don't know if I could be around him and act like nothing was wrong. I comend you to the bottom of my heart for doing this for Andrew's parents. You are a wonderful man with a hugh heart. I can tell you loved Andrew because if you didn't you wouldn't have cared if this was done or not. I want to thank you from the bottom of MY heart. Your a great man.

I just got done watching the show and sick to my stomach, just to feel a slight of the Bagby's loss is completely gut-wrenching. This is probably the most heart-felt episode of Dateline I've watched so far. Thank you so much Kurt for your wonderful work of putting together a beautiful package of father and son celebrating their own happy memories. Did you also sketch the pic of the 2 together? I think its so amazing and special the bond you have with the Bagby's. You're an inspiration to so many families...XOXO

This story is one I will long remember. What an amazing circle of family and friends. I would have never thought watching it that it was going to end like it did. How incredibly sad. I was so happy for the parents that thye at least had cute little Zachary to help them through their tragic loss and then she took that away from then too. You are an amazing friend to this family to put together this documentry. It sounds like he was a wonderful man that maybe never knew how wonderful he actually was. I felt terrible for his poor parents. No one should have to suffer what this family has! Hopefully their story will change laws and force people to accept that murderes should not ever be free. I am so sorry for the loss of your good friend. Im sure his parents are so appreciative to you for doing this for them. Thank you for sharing a part of it with us!

Kurt,

Thank you for sharing this informative, and yet warm story of your dear friend and family. This took quite the skill to do both surrounding the circumstances. It was touching and evoked much emotion and also provided the public and myself with an awareness of the judicial system/posting bail, etc.

i just watched this story and my heart is broken for andrew's parents especially, and for you and all of of his friends and family. what a tragic story. i am still heartbroken and crying. thank you for continuing the documentary as a tribute to andrew, zachary and his parents!! what a precious gift to give in spite of your own pain. i so admire the Bagby's faithfulness and strength and their testimony of that faith through such a horrific tragedy. the honest, raw confessions of how they felt and the thoughts they had.... it's just so real, how anyone would feel in the midst of such affliction... i truly question whether i could make it through such an ordeal-having an only child myself. their faith and courage can only be from God Himself. i was so humbled and blessed that kate and david continue to believe God is with them always, even in "the pits" and believing in His love and faithfulness that they shared with all of us. i pray that their work to change the law will help so many others to avoid such an atrocity! may God bless and heal you all!!! i cant tell you how much this story broke and touched my heart, tested my faith and blessed and gave me hope. i will continue to pray for you all by name. please share my heartfelt condolences. God bless you.

Im a big fan of Dateline, and tonights show i found very touching and emotional! I cried! I felt the pain y! May baby Zach rest in peace and im sending condolences and love to the family!

Through my tears I sit here speechless. I can't believe the story I just saw. My heart hurts for all of you and I wish I could say something really clever right now, all I know how to say is I am so sorry for your loss, can't believe how lucky you all are to have known such a great man and child and marvel at the strength of those parents, how they haven't gone mad is beyond me. Just unbelievable to me what human beings are capable of, both good and bad. I am going to lye down now and try to calm down and go to sleep....

I just finished watching Dateline and my heart goes out to Andrew's parents and to that poor little baby Zachary. I don't know how in the world a mother could ever harm her child let alone kill Andrew. I strongly believe that you are doing the right thing by continuing your documentary in honoring your friend. I truly hope that Andrew's parents are able to change the laws so that this doesn't happen to anyone else. I can't express the deep sympathy I have for all of you and especially for Kate and David. Please let them know that they are in many hearts throughout America tonight and our prayers. Hopefully the thought that their son and grandson have reunited in heaven and are together now help them to be at peace. Much love and support to all of you.

That was a very sad story.

What an amazing story...so touching. How are the Bagby's doing? Are people watching out for them, visiting them? They have been through so much.

I'm 48 yrs. old and have never been moved by a story like the one I just watched on Dateline tonight. To Kurt, thank you for honoring your friend Andrew and his family with your documentary. To Andrew's parents, I agree that there are people placed on this earth to set an example for others, just like the woman on TV said at the end of the show. You both inspire me to be a better person. I will tell my 2 sons ages 18 and 21 this story. God Bless you.

I was filled with Love and Loss watching tonights show, I cant even begin to imagine what you must feel, I commend you and share your pride in your best friend and his son and your commitment to him, his son and his parents Kate and David, the courage it must take to endure this pain is remarkable.

Thank you for sharing your tragedy and loss you will be in my prayers for many nights to come...

GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU!!!

I am in awe of Andrews' parents. They are such strong people that I can only hope I have some of their inner strength if I ever had to deal with half of what they have experienced. I admire your dedication to Andrew & baby Zachary & I can almost guarantee you are a reason why Andrews parents get up everyday to continue their daily fight. Please let them know they're in many people's prayers after shedding light to their story tonight with all of us.

I truly admire the courage of the Bagby's and their good friend Kurt, God Bless them all and may Andrew and Zachary rest in peace. This story has truly touched my heart.

Kurt, Andrew and Kurt live on through you, his parents and all who knew him. Your film on him is heartfelt and heart wrenching to see the loss of such beautiful hearts in the father and son. But, here I am, in LA feeling and knowing both of them through you and your film and they have touched my life. YOU, Kurt, and the film work you are doing, gives me inspiration of why I am in LA to begin with.....to be part of film "that makes a difference". Thank you for your determination and strength to bring us their story and bravo to Andrew's parents for going on with such strength to help change the law to help others. Bunny Gibson

Kurt,

After reading many of these posts it is clear that I am not alone, as the tears roll down my cheeks, how the heartfelt story of Andrew and Zachary was told by dateline. The grandparents are amazing as they have showed such great strength through this double tragedy. It is clearly impossible to come to terms with these senseless murders but I hope that I am just one more person whose heartfelt concern sheds some solice. My prayers are with you all.

Donna

I'm speechless also. My heart is aching for this amazing couple, I don't think I'll sleep well tonight at all. This documentary is the most beautiful legacy, he was so lucky to have you as a friend ... and have Kate and David as parents. Such a tragic story, but beautiful when you see so much love and commitment among this family and friends.

The most shocking moment for me was when the judge apologized for "delaying" this monsters life as he released her to the public. I hope those words echo in his heart for a long time.

To Shirley's son. You are also a beautiful legacy to this tragic story.

What a wonderful and thoughtful tribute you compiled in creating the story of your friend and his son's life. That woman was jealous, selfish, paranoid and had feelings of being abandoned or not being loved. To hurt someone like she did was difficult to watch. Parents should never have to endure that kind of loss and pain of their child and grandchild at the hands of someone else. They are courageous and brave human beings, selfless and God loving. No one knows why such evil and troubled people walk this earth, but it is up to the authorities and the law to protect the innocent from these types of horrific events. If the laws were tough and capital punishment were still in place, it is very doubtful that alot of these types of crimes would be going on. We don't DO anything about it, except give killers rights and a roof over their heads in jail. WHEN are we going to protect the VICTIMS effectively? This was a very touching, loving, difficult, heart wrenching story to watch. My thoughts and prayers are with the family, and also to you for creating awareness by keeping his name alive through your works.

Kurt,

What a precious gift you have given Andrew's parents. Job well done.

It always hurts me when i see a little innocent baby, hurt in an unthinkable undigestible way. He was so cute and chubby, he was just gorgeous. During the whole story, u can feel the tension building up, like a disaster just waiting to happen. you can see that womans anger just building up and she took it out on him just for loving his grandparents, and she preferred to see him dead, than to ever know that he would ever be in their arms again.........horrible. I wouldve gladly had him! honest.......the only thinkg i missed was where did she drown him? and did she commit suicide or did she flee?

I was so hoping the end result wasn't going to be that beautiful child disappearing from the Bagbys life. I couldn't believe it. It was very hard to take; I'm still crying for their sweet little Zachary.

I'm so sorry they had to go through that pain of losing their loved ones. I pray that they will have some comfort when the law is changed. Bless the Bagby's for being so strong and doing all they could do. Nobody could have guessed that it would end the way it did.

The film was so thoughtful of you; the Bagby's will treasure that forever. You're a good friend.

God Bless you and your family and the Bagby's,

joAnn B.

What a wonderful thing you have done! This story was a long time coming! It touched my heart and I will never forget Andrew, Zachary or Andrews parents. What they endured shouldn't be endured by anyone! Its a shame that noone listens to the most knowing people when it comes to a case like this! Changing the laws are a start but changing human nature is what its gonna take for this never to happen again. How many stories are out there that aren't told just like it? Thank you!!!

Kurt,

It's 1:30am, and every Friday and Sunday night I look forward to watching Dateline. I find myself intrigued to the craziness of this world, that you never know about the monsters that walk among us. So when I got off work tonight I put on the show which I recorded earlier, and what a shock! You have over 2,000 emails and comments probably saying the same thing... how terrible this most unfortunate event could even exist. It's now 2010, so this happened a couple of years ago. Well, I know the justice system is screwed up. My aunt died a few months ago from a massive hemmorage to the brain. Days before her death she took her son Caleb to this mans house whom she was having intimate relations with. I'm 22 years old and was having issues at home so I moved in with her, and that morning when I woke up an d saw her leaving the apartment with Caleb, was the last morning I would ever see her like that.... I gave my aunt my cell phone before she left the apartment (she didnt have one) so that I would be able to get ahold of her later on. A couple hours later I was just getting up, it was about 11:30- noon. I used the landline to call her, and see when she and Caleb would be home. I called.... and called, but no answer. By the third or fourth call, she answered the phone. I asked her where she was, and she could barely talk. She kept saying "I dont know...." I said to her then, "Are you lost...?" and she didnt respond. Then I heard Cayleb, my 3 yearr old cousin crying in the background. Then, this man picked up the phone and started talking to me. He asked me who I was, and for me to come to his house immediately and get my aunt and cousin before he does something. I didnt know what to do, I had no car and I didnt ewven know who this man was..... So I asked him for directions to his house and while he was giving m directions, ON THE PHONE he was beating my aunt. I could actually hear him beating her, dragging her across the floor. Cayleb in the background screaming and crying.... I felt helpless. I could hear everything. 24hours later my aunt Tracy died from a massive brain hemmorage. I spoke with detectives, being that I was their star witness, and justice was never served. This guy got away with murder. I completely understand and admire what you did for your friend and his family. After watching that, I am going to start my life over. I'm 23 years old now and I've lost almost my whole family. I tried to take my own life once. But tonight, for some reason I chose to do something. I chose to write you this email, and tell a complete stranger things I cant and wont talk about with my own family. You honored your friend. Justice needs to be served. Your documentary was not only to honor your friend, but it showed me something too. It opened up my eyes. I'm truly sorry for the loss of your friend and his son. I wish your family and The Bagbys the best.

Steph ;)

Hello,

I watched "The Best Man" on Dateline this evening, and can't get this story out of my head. My heart just breaks for little Zachary. It sickens me that our justice system would allow this little boy to be in the care of such a monster when there were two wonderful grandparents to care for him - whom he obviously adored as well. I will keep Zachary and the Bagby's in my thoughts and prayers, and will be sure not to take for granted every wonderful moment I get to experience with my own son.

Deepest condolences,

Stephanie.

Aloha,

Please accept my heartfelt sympathy for the parents of Andrew and Grandparents of Zachary. I am a grandparent myself raising my two grandchildren due to some of the same characteristics in this story. I want Andrew's parents to know that they have given me strength to stand firm in my belief that just because a woman has a baby does not mean that she deserves to have the children with her if she is mentally ill. We are fighting the courts now, and while there was no death in our case I feel that if this is allowed to continue and the children go back to Mom..... I don't even want to think about it. Mental illness never goes away. Why can't people figure that out before something goes terribly wrong.

My prayers go out to all of Andrew's family and friends. He reminds me of a friend that I have. What a beautiful spirit. What a beautiful smile. Thank you for being so strong to share your story and time to put this all together.

Please accept my deepest sympathy,

Kathleen

Thank you for documenting this heart wrenching story. The Bagby parents are truly remarkable. The sacrifices they made to honor their son and to care for their grandson are heroic. The fact that the legal system allowed this to occur is beyond the pale. The crusade of the Bagby parents to hold the courts accountable is about justice denied.

We need to band together to honor Andrew and Zachary by petitioning to change the court system to ensure that the best interests of the children, not the unstable parent(s), are served. Similar court decisions are occurring in the U.S on a daily basis in child custody cases. We as a society must demand that the courts take into account the wishes of the children and the stability of each parent when making custody decisions. If the courts err, it must be on the side that protects the children.

I think you and the Baxby's can further the cause of helping children in similar situations by delving farther into the psychological background of this woman. Many women who are dangerous to their own children and other family members have borderline personality disorder. A borderline is usually a woman and the courts do not understand how dangerous they are because the term "borderline" sounds benign and often goes undiagnosed. People who have borderline personality disorder create a life for themselves and others that is consumed with drama and chaos. Anything you can do to make this term common knowledge among the public will be very instrumental in helping ensure children will not be placed in the care of women who appear harmless on the exterior but who have serious psychological problems due to being raised by a borderline mother themselves or having gone through emotional trauma as children.

The Bagby's are fighting to make sure the next innocent child will be protected from both the mother and the courts. I can take solace in their beautiful example to us all to fight for justice and in knowing that Zachary is with Andrew now. May God grant them His peace.

I saw this Dateline on Friday, July 23, 2010, and it has impacted me like no other Dateline story has. If it would be possible to get an address or P.O. box where I can contact the Bagbys I would appreciate it. I am a mother and a grandmother, and I would like to let them know that my family and I are praying for them. To lose an only child as sweet and good as Andrew is an unbearable tragedy, but to also lose an only baby grandchild as adorable as Zachary after that, is more than unbearable. I know there are no words to express the pain. I feel for this lovely couple. God bless them and may Andrew and Zachary, who are at God's side, bless them too.

Maria

Hi Ryan,

Thanks for the kind words. I actually put the project away for about 6 months after he was killed, not sure what I was going to do. But my original intent - before I ever knew there was going to be a Zachary - was to make a memorial album of Andrew for family, friends and recipients of his scholarship funds, so I decided to return to my original intention at first. But when Kate & David started speaking out in the media and David began writing his book, I realized I had a responsibility to tell this story publicly to try and prevent a recurrence. Once that became the goal, seeing that goal through became a source of strength. And I really felt like this movie could stand as irrefutable proof of the value that one human life has.

You could obviously see Andrew in Zachary in your footage, it was such a beautiful tribute. I'm so sorry for your loss, what a horrible thing for you and his friends and parents to go through. I know they are grateful for the memories you captured on film.

Where can the parents be contacted to praise them for their courage and strength?

You can take pride in the fact that you have used your gift to bring justice to Andrew and Zachary and hopefully prevent a similar incident from ever happening again.

Hi,

Just saw the story. I never belived it was going to end up that way. I am still crying. I have 2 kids myself. I have no idea how his parents can cope with this. Any time I am having a bad day I will think of them. I will remember this forever. They are truly strong people. I am so sorry for there losses. I am devestated. I just want to hug them.

Dear Kurt,

Beautifully done...my heart is heavy for Bagby family. There are no words but only inspiration mixed with frustration as the story unfolded. Blessings to you and the family and friends of Andrew and Zachary.

Dear Kurt, I, too, believe one human life has enormous value. Your friend's legacy continues to better mankind through you, Zachary's memory, Andrew's parents and his friends. Whether you know it or not, you are also Andrew's and his son Zachary's advocate. There are those that sit quietly and watch people live and then there are the Andrews, Kurts, Kates and Davids who live to make a difference. Andrew and Zachary's deaths are not in vain. Their lives brought happiness for a great many people and through their deaths many lives will be saved. It's not fair but throughout history the sacrifice of the few has saved the many. Keep up the good work. Although my heart aches for all of you, without advocates, the world cannot continue and Andrew expects nothing less from you!

Hello and thank you so much for your diligence in telling Andrew & Zachary's story as well as that of Andrew's parents. My heart aches for the sadness of both families and I think your film will help their legacy continue for years to come.

Prayers and blessings to all.

My wife and I just watched the recording of Dateline's "Best Man" report by Mr. Morrison. We were deeply, deeply moved. Our son was charged, convicted and incarcerated back in 2007 for a crime that he didn't commit. Prosecutorial error, judicial error and ineffective legal representation put our son in prison. In his own way, our son was much like Bagby, well liked but so much to share with people and society. My wife and I are much like the Bagbys. We are so depressed as a result of the failure to win our son a new trial to properly defend himself. He was denied a new trial by the appeallate court and the supreme court. He was turned down by 2 state legal agencies to investigate the circumstances. We are beside ourselves. Can you help us bring our son's delimma to light?

Thanks so much for your kind words; we truly appreciate it. If you go to my film's website - dearzacharydotcom - and click on "Support Bail Reform", there are links and addresses of folks you can write to. Right now, our bill is in the Canadian Senate and is moving along nicely, but letters of support are always welcome.

Beyond that, if you are so inclined, I encourage you to donate to one of the two scholarship funds established in Andrew's memory -- one's at his hospital in Latrobe, PA, the other at his medical school in St. John's, Newfoundland, both of which support student physicians pursuing his specialty of family practice. Links to where donations to these funds can be made are also on my film's website -- dearzacharydotcom, click on "Donate".

Thank you!!!

Kurt, congratulations on a wonderful tribute to your friend. Do you think the outcome would have been different if she was tried here in the US? I think her release was ridiculous, I suppose we can always speculate about 'what would have been' but seriously? This is such a tragic story.

Thank you! I emailed you from the website before I saw this special on MSNBC, but I think they did a great job of covering the Bagby's story and your film.

Congratulations on the success of everyone's hard work thus far. I will donate to Andrew's hospital in Latrobe - where he was happy.

then hopefully this show will give you the motivation to do what is necessary to keep your chld safe. good luck.

thanks, I just wish I knew where they were. last known address was seattle...5 years ago... law enforcement has been searching...now cold case....that is why this has hit me hard... Thank you for the support. God Bless.

Curt, and maybe what the airing of this case will do is give you the courage to go to media outlets to get your story out there so you can reconnect with your child. I wish you the best.

Hi Curt Carrington,

Curt, I'm sure you've contacted every law enforcement agency as possible. Try contacting victim's advocacy agencies all over the US if you have to. You may get lucky and find a private investigator willing to help you for a reduced fee. Gather all your friends and family for a fund raiser and hire the best damn investigator you can find. If you explain you plight along with a letter, many halls, restaurants or bar restaurants will donate a room, many caterers or restaurants will donate food, many beverage companies will donate beverages (Coke Cola donated to one of my fund raisers), many local politicians will offer support, many DJ's will donate the night, there are many places, companies especially and organizations that will donate their items to your fund raiser and then you charge a fee per person (all your friends and family can come and they can invite people). Ask a politician to come to your fund raiser and that will help get guests. You can do it. Write a letter to every company you can think of asking for their support such as food, drinks or money. Send letters to every restaurant and hall in your neighborhood and then go in person. Fax/email a letter to every politician and company. After you secure a date and donations send flyers throughout the neighbor hood and neighboring towns or cities for guests. Through fund raisers you may be able to pay a really good and reputable private investigator and lawyer. Good Luck! You can do it! God Bless you and you are in my prayers.

To Curt Carrington oh lord, u feel for ur child too? maybe this was an eyeopener for u. be careful, oh God be careful, please! I will pray for you.

you should watch the documentary. If you do have a box of tissues handy. Last I checked anyone with a Netflix subscription can watch the documentary on their site as a watch instantly.

Yes, "Dear Zachary" is available on Netflix, both on DVD and instant view (I recommend getting the DVD if you're really interested, as I prepared lots of special features and extras that are only on the DVD), is available in most Blockbuster video stores, and can be purchased on Amazon and many other on line vendors, including directly from the distributor, Oscilloscope Pictures.

Thanks so much for your interest in the film, I hope you find it affecting.

very cool info - thank you for sharing that

Me too! I still have tears in my eyes & it's very hard to see the keyboard. God Bless those grandparents. I think they should have moved when they had him & she was sitting in jail. This just makes me sick to think a doctor can be so heartless.

I couldn't believe the story and I only saw the 2nd half too. I wonder about the first part and why and how The Dad was killed by his wife. I was shocked at the ending and can't believe the Grandparents loss. (I am a Grandparent too). could anyone fill me in on the first half?

You're kidding right?

wow thanx for caring!

seriously?????????

That is the problem with people like you. Always thinking that nothing ever goes wrong in the world outside you. Bad things do happen and this story may help someone who may be in a simular position. I have a situation of my own that I would like to tell people. If anything just to get another prospective that may help. I truly feel sorry for you.

"[A] true tragedy that no one could ever sympathize with." Excuse me? Don't speak for me. I do sympathize with these people, and I do empathize with them. I'm truly sorry for you that you have such a cold heart to write communicate such awful things to people simply because of your own inadequacies. You should be ashamed.

The whole country and everyone else for that matter does not need to know this story, your correct. Although this is such a tragedy anyone who watched this episdoe should feel blessed. Andrew's parents have to be two of the most strongest people I have ever seen. Their strength should give hope to people who are going through anything in their lives. Their story may not be relatable to the average persons life, like mine for example. But my heart goes out to them and i'm glad i got to see this episode. <3

Why are you even watching Dateline if you're all about puppies and rainbows? You need a reality check.

would you rather hear about lindsey lohan's latest debacle? Or maybe you'd like to catch up on the firefighters man-wife that is fighting for his pension? News in the world today is @!$%#, this story mattered to the people it happened to and maybe you could have a little more respect?

Would you like some Lemon Zinger for your Tea Party?

Oh my, M Moyer are you kidding, are you living under a rock, I bet you would think differently if this involved your family, you think?

Protection or restraining orders are never taken seriously enough.

Because like his mother said life is not perfect tragety happens all the time, maybe you are lucky and it has not hit you. News never post good things but helps you realize what is important or what you can do to help others.

We need to know because those who do not learn from history are destined to reapeat it. And you missed te boat entirely the good things in the country and the best live has to offer is love, and in this story the love was bursting at the seams. Mr and Mrs Bagby, Kurt, and other have so much love for Andrew and Zachary that they selflessly put their own lives on permanant hold to do the right thing. If more people were willing to do the right thing and to scream at the top of their lungs when injustices occurred the world would be safer for every Andrew and Zachary.

We need to know this tragedy so that we can learn from it and so we can change the bail system and other laws that may prevent something like this ever happening again. The Bagby family touched me and opened my eyes to the major need for bail reform.

While it is important to see the good things that are going on in our country, we can not turn a blind eye to the bad things, and need to work together to improve the oversights in our government which put our children at risk.

To M. Moyer - You ask why we all need to know about this story. We all need to know when any member of our human race has been wronged and robbed of life. We are all in a circle of life. You seem to be missing the important message of this wonderful film and Dateline's telling of this story - that we must all be vigilent and protective of each others lives; that what happens to one person happens to us all. We cannot be detached from the evil that happens in the world anymore than we can be detached from the joy. We must all tell our stories and live as though we are all each other's family - because we are. Thank you, Kurt for telling the story of your friend and his loved ones. It enriches us all and moves us to thought and action!

M. Moyer...Perhaps you do need to be flooded with more positive in your life because you apparently have no heart. This story was riviting and a true testiment to the enduring strength of the human spirit. The Bagbys are an inspiration and I thank you, Kurt and NBC for sharing this with us. I'm sure this had to be equally as hard to relive over and over. May you all find peace and solace in what you have brought to us.

M Moyer .....You are an idiot ...

are you serious, why should we know about this it could happen to anyone.....i am glad to see that these people tried everything i hope the next person will fight harder that is why they are sharing the story..........wow i am so suprise that someone could not have any feelings i guess your life is so perfect and you have never been through anything that has broken your heart..........lucky you............but you are a perfect @!$%#...............to say what you said!!!

Moyer, it's about mental illness. Public awareness may save a child's life tonight. Have you been tested for mental illness? (hint)

What a tragedy! My heart goes out to his parents. What a wonderful person he must of been. Thank you for continuing on with the documentary. Two wonderful lives lost but always remembered.

I'm not sure what this person is thinking when he or she wrote something like this. I put my child up for adoption 28 years ago.. and I finally found him and I am also a Grandfather.. and now I wouldnt change it for the world.. It just goes to show you that some people just think of themselves.. and not what's best for the child.... I rest my case... Shirley shouldve lost custody of Zachary a LONG TIME AGO.. The first time she was arrested... and Zachary shouldve lived with his Grandma & Grandpa.. W.W.W. From Wisconsin

Did you ever consider that their story could help someone ELSE?! If there was a hole down the street from your house and people were falling in it, wouldn't you be pissed if your family member fell in it because NO ONE TOLD YOU?!! People need to know and be aware that there are people like her in this world so they can protect themselves!!

I just don't understand people like you. I'm so tempted to lash out at you.

M Moyer, this story was so sad and so touching.My heart is still just pounding away at the senseless killing of such a great man Andrew,to his innocent son,Zacharys drowning,to the greatest of loves from all of his friends and most of all his poor parents struggles and heartache throughout this whole process. This story,this tragedy has touched me so profoundly in such a way that I will never be the same and you have the nerve to come on here and say what's the sense of telling everyone?

This is life!!!This is real!!! Wake up and take your rose colored glasses off! You should be totally and utterly ashamed at yourself! It is people like you...like the killer... who have no empathy or compassion for others.You are the ones whose voice should not ever be heard not such a great story of love and injustice!

I think M. Moyer knows he/she touched a nerve. What a callous fool.

M Moyer you are an incredible ass. Just shut up.

This documentary was very touching, very emotional for me to watch. My heart and prayers go out to the family and friends. The hardest part is that the woman died. Oh if it were only possible I'd love to be the one to pull the switch and kill her again for what she did to that beautiful baby.

Which country are you talking about exactly? Wow, let's all focus on the happy people everywhere. Mr Moyer, is there a pier near you?

m moyer - you watched it though didnt you? do you live in a bubble? probably. jack-%#%!

M. Moyer,

Personally, I think you are wrong! Everything in this big vast world is not pleasant, nor even understandable by those of us not touched by tragic circumstances. Just maybe the telling of this family's double tragedy can help others to be involved in the pursuit of a cold-blooded killer and the protection of a most innocent child. I applaud the persistence of the Bagby's in their efforts. Mr. Kuenne did an excellent job of telling this tragic story. He captured the attention of me, and I hope to view his entire documentary.

Sincerely,

Cheryl Clark

PS. Why did you watch this anyway????. You should have changed the channel when you realized it wasn't all about the goodness of your fellow man!!!!!

m Moyer, assuming you have more than one channel...you should have changed it, Treehouse must be available in your area.

We did not make you watch it. Your comments are not needed. This is real life. You are a cold hearted idiot. Crawl back in your hole and stay there.

I commend you on all of your work. I don't know how you found the strength to continue with your film after Zachary was killed? The film was such a great tribute that you completed for Andrew's parents. My heart goes out to you and Andrew's parents. You have touched me, my heart and I'm sure many others.

I want to thank Dateline for airing the documentary. It is time that everyone knows how our court system works!!!

I know that God will continue to give them courage to keep up their fight. Thank you for the tribute to your friend, Zachary and his family. May God Bless you and Andrew's parents.

M. Moyer ... buy the documentary, watch it, find your heart and hopefully, you will realize just how dumb you sound.

How is this NOT a story about the best in people? I can't even remember how I stumbled upon this documentary, but it was one of the few that truly changed how I view tragedy. The Bagby's have every right to feel angry, helpless and bitter, yet what exudes from them is purpose, and their energy has been directed to helping those who loved Andrew to cope with his and Zachary's loss. Dear Zachary is testament to the enduring human spirit of extraordinary people who chose to reach out and make a difference, when in fact most would deservedly be incapicitated by their grief.

To Kurt, the Bagby's and all who loved Andrew and Zachary, your tribute to them is the epitomy of hope; for the past and for the future.

knowing about this story has a positive impact in that it makes us, or at least alerts us to be more pro active so that other innocent lives are spared!

Hello!!!

Whatever happened to turning off your TV or if you don't have something good to say don't say it at all? What should we do, live in a bubble and act like the world is a perfect place? Maybe this helped the parents to tell the story, maybe "Dear Zachary" will help someone's life, maybe it will teach us to be thankful for the time we have right NOW. And I agree with whoever asked you if you would rather be hearing about Lindsay Lohan and the rest of the crazies from Hollyweird?

Moyer,

Something tells me this is exactly what you wanted..All this attention, everyone commenting on your own ignorant comment. This is probably the most attention you have gotten in a very long time. You watched the whole episode of Dateline, and then went online to make your sad comment. I feel sorry for you, you must be full of so much bother, ignorance and incompassion. For me , the story helps me appreciate everything I have, a little bit more tonight. That family is probably one of the most respectful & strong, & admirable people I have ever seen. God bless them, may life bring them some hope & happiness to help them go on. It is very clear to me why Andrew was such an extraordinary human being. Too bad you cant understand that, Moyer.... But, I don't expect you to.

Yo Moyer.Your just an ass..Maybe what you need is something terrible to happen to you or someone you love to wake you up..Dont post on topic like this cause you dont have a heart or a brain to comprehend mature subject matter...

Dear M.,

The Hallmark Channel has very happy, perfect ending stories. Perhaps that, and Nick-at-Night's episodes of "Leave it to Beaver" will help you create the shallow world that you are searching for. If you have paid attention to any of the above comments perhaps you can realize that there is depth in suffering. Specific words that I will take away and remember are Mrs. Bagby's words paraphrased- "I used to thank God for my good life, but now I realize God lives with us in the pain."

Lets not continue to make Moyer the topic-- He has gotten enough attention away from the good done by Kurt and the Bagbys/

I didn't even want to give you the dignity of responding to your absolutely disgusting comments. You are a sorry example of a human being and truly do not deserve the attention!!

But this is for you... How horrible does it feel to be so negative and so hated?? You are an absolutely heartless example of a human being! Instead of such horrible things happening to such wonderful, innocent people my question is... why do they not happen to people like you? Where is the justice? That is a story I would like to see... "People get what they deserve... the story of M.M" I would watch is and feel so much better than what I felt tonight. Shame on you... You heartless piece of c — — p! Karma is a b — — t — h! Keep on bringing all this negativity to your life and you will get nothing but negative results - good for you - keep on keeping on!

I sense "something" is missing with this one. Or he/she might be a troll. And you know what they say about trolls...

M. Moyer you are not a person at all because you're just heartless! You are so wrong about no one will even sympathize to this tragedy. Even people who never lost anyone in their lives are grieving on their own way; and I am one of them. Judging from the reactions that you gathered, people are feeling enrage towards you because of your lack of sensibility. Don't worry you will feel the pain that the Bagbys are feeling right now once you lost someone important to you.Oh and one more thing, M. Moyer, you're a moron!

I wish he would have. I'm sure he would have had a better time in jail knowing his grandson is alive and being taken care of by his wife rather than the situation he is in now. I was so happy for them when I saw the spark in their eyes when they were telling about finding out they had a grandbaby on the way after Andrew was dead, just to have him being killed by the same bitch. +(

Hi Kevin,

My son was married to a psycho and believe me I witnessed her unbelieveable act. She should of been an actress in Hollywood. CPS believed her and what her family did against us; we were trully the victim and we were treated like the criminal. The law are so twisted, because the Judges, Children Protective Services and Lawyers do not care.....It is who has the best story or lies to tell. Believe me, I have lived a nightmare in my own life worrying about our Grandchildren that is with the demented Family, but what can we do. We spent around $45,000 during the year 2004. Now the Aunt is trying to adopt because the bi-mother (her neice) lost custody which my son had custody, but in Texas they do not support Father's Rights and my son cannot find a full time job in Austin, Tx. So they are trying to terminate my son's rights. But they want transfer the children out of Texas because the Government pays too much money....It is a big joke. Than the system wonders why kids are so missed up. We offered them a stable home, but CPS want transfer these innocent children to another state where they can grow up being happy and loved. Go FIGURE

You have no idea the things that go through your mind when you are faced with losing your child ... or your grandchild in this case. But that is NEVER the answer. I have easy access to that kind of answer - one that would never be linked to me - but I could never put my child through that kind of pain no matter how much I fear for HIS life in his FATHER'S care. I could never live with myself.

And to Pokie, we have spent >$200k trying to preserve my rights AS THE MOTHER. I *wish* we'd only spent $45k. And all for the lies and smoke screens .... It IS about how much money the state receives collecting child support ... even from people who have never made the salary assigned to them as a result of some stupid book calculation.

what u are saying is very powerful. we all love someone, but i also think its a little different when ur objective than to when ur on the inside

Kurt, where can we see your full video?

Please keep up your outstanding work, Kurt. You have touched a lot of lives with your tribute to Andrew. I'd love to see your entire documentary.

Last I checked anyone with a Netflix subscription can watch the documentary on their site as a watch instantly. Also Amazon has it for sale.

Kurt,

As Andrew was everyone's "best man"... you should be everyone's "best friend". This was such a tragedy and I cried and I am still crying for you and Andrew's parents..... This was such a tragedy. May God bless you and Andrew's parents.... you are very very special people......

Hi Kurt

I just watched this powerful program about Andrew!

My heart goes out to the family!

I am 55 with a 8 yr old daughter and I know I will give many hugs and kisses to Rachel!

I am sitting here in tears!

Such an act of cruelity!

This is up there with the susan smith story!!

People who watched this program will never forget!!

I sure won't!!

You are a crusader!!

Mark Roda

Hi Kurt,

First, thank you for making such a beautiful, loving film. I am so sorry for the tragedy this family has had to endure. I am wondering if you have any other stories now that you are documenting?

Hi Amber,

Thanks for asking. I just posted the same answer above, but I'll post it here too:

"Dear Zachary" is available on Netflix, both on DVD and instant view (I recommend getting the DVD if you're really interested, as I prepared lots of special features and extras that are only on the DVD), is available in most Blockbuster video stores, and can be purchased on Amazon and many other on line vendors, including directly from the distributor, Oscilloscope Pictures. Their website is Osciloscopedotnet, or there's a link to their site on the front page of my film's website, dearzacharydotcom.

Thank you for your beautiful work and I look forward to seeing the full video. I am so sorry for your loss. What a tragic story! You have inspired me to feel much more thankful for the many blessing in my life.

Hi Kurt, You are proof that there are indeed Angels amongst us. As a mother that lost her son when he was only 17; also shot to death; I know the pain Kate and David feel. What you have done for them gives me hope; something I haven't felt since burying my own son. Will you be selling your video to help the Bagby's in their plight to bring this to the publics eye and perhaps preventing another family from having to feel this unbearable pain? I know that my son Robert is in heaven and with his bright smile and big heart met Andrew and then Zachery at those Pearly Gates and greeted them with a warm hug. Its hard to type through the tears; please know you are all in my thoughts and prayers and let Kate know that there is another Mother out here sending her much love. I'm here for them both if they ever need to just talk....... Many blessings, Suzanne

Kurt, I think you are a true friend to Andrew and his family. I'm sure they truely appreciate you being in Andrew's life. It's a wonderful documented piece. Having this documentary for Andrews family to watch I'm sure warms their heart. I am a maritme Canadian and remember seeing this in the news at the time, thinking that this can't be right. It just didn't seem believable. I mean that a Newf could do such a thing, and then later kill her own baby. I know it's true there are tragedys in every corner of our world, but every Newfoundlander I had ever met was so warm, loving and friendly,,,well one never knows, do they. This is a very kind thing you have done for them, a great tribute to Andrew, May he rest in peace.

I'm thankful to hav seen this tonight.

way to go, Kurt

you're a good friend that brought healing through your efforts

I won't go into detail about Texas family law, but kids have to be the focus. In my experience, they simply are not! Unfortunately, the old mindset that the "mother" is the best place for children is commonplace. It has to stop...simply, has to stop.

Kurt,

I saw your documentary a few years ago and was so deeply touch by your love for you friend and desire to honor and remember him. We should all strive to be people like Andrew so that when we leave this earth those left are so affected they go out of their way to remember us. It is truly heartbreaking story to watch, but it is so inspiring in so many ways as well! I was extremely excited to see Andrew and Zachary's story brought to the Dateline platform so the audience for your beautiful documentary would be widened and more people could be blessed to see it. I hope everyone that watched tonight's story goes out and rents/buys your film to experience the story as it is so amazingly told by you. God bless you, the Bagbys and everyone else who knew and loved Andrew and/or Zachary. Have a great evening.

Thank you,

Shawna

Shaw_ash2@email.com

Hi Kurt, I wrote to you after seeing the first documentary and i told all of my friends to be sure to watch tonight. As i said before,i have never had anything move me like this. What a shame to say this is our justice system. This is amazing that you have done this. Please update us on his parents. Thanks for a beautiful film. For the ones that did not see the documentary, you have missed an amazing piece of work by Kurt. Thanks, Rebecca

Kurt, what a wonderful tribute to your friend and his son. You're awesome. My heart just breaks for you and the rest of Andrew's friends and his mom and dad. They are amazing people. I hope they find peace in their lives and will keep them in my prayers. God Bless them and you for giving them a wonderful present. Two beautiful angels are in heaven.

hey Kurt, i am a mother and grandmother from northern Quebec...........i think its a beautiful thing that you are doing...............and if you can please tell Andrews parents that i will never forget this story....and they should check into being foster grandparents i think they would be fantastic ....my thoughts are with them. and that they have 2 angels watching them...............and they must know like the rest of the world that she is in hell............

I agree with you there Linda, she is definitely in hell....and staying there, may Andrew and Zachary rest in peace!

Kurt,

Thanks so much for your contribution to "The Best Man". I would love to see your film. It appears that as this project grew, the sad reality is that the number of lives that the film became to honor grew as well. I love the wonderful George Baily take on Andrew's parents. We all have people like them in our lives and to thank them just for being who they are is truly divine. I belive that your film has helped ease their pain and helped to bring an awareness to something that was way beyond the scope of your original intent of this film.

Hello Kurt, Boy what an honor to have shared in your painful testiment of the love and loss of your dear friend Andrew. My heart truly goes out to you(all of his friends)and his parents. I believe this tribute is so wonderful because it will never let Andrew or Zachary's life be in vain...they will always be with us. I'm touched at your love and friendship that you stayed with this and in turn will touch thousands of lives because of it. As painful as it is Thank you so very much for sharing this with us. I'm truly sorry for the loss of your dear friend Andrew,he really seemed like such a good guy and he had such a great friend in you! I know he is looking down and saying Thank you man for doing this for me~

Take Care and God Bless you!!!

Thank you Kurt for your wonderful work. I have been in law enforcement for 26 years and this story really tugged at my heart strings. I felt the anger and pain that the grandparents felt as they were re-victimized not only by the mentally unstable Shirley but also the justice system. I cannot believe that more extreme measures were not placed on her while she waited for extradition. This was the first time I heard about this case and I felt that she was mocking the family when she gave the baby his father's name. I knew at that moment that she was not going to allow this story to have a happy ending. I have taken confessions from murder suspects and they have one thing in common, a self-serving, narcissistic individual who only cared about their needs. She sent her children from her first marriage away for Gods sake, how could the judge not see that she was a high risk. I praise the grandparents for having the strength to face her so that they could see their beautiful grandchild.. It is true that God puts people like them on this earth to make us all better people. God Bless them and you for sharing.

Well said.

Kurt. I am stunned. I watch Dateline every week however I don't believe that I have ever seen such a tragic story and yet it exhibits the most incredible courage and love that I have ever witnessed in my life! With that aside, I am a mental health professional. Was the Turner woman ever diagnosed with a mental illness as far as you know? Just from what I observed, the woman screamed Borderline Personality Disorder/Narcissistic Personalty Disorder. It seems that these personality disorders are becoming more prevalent (and more dangerous). God bless you and the Bagby's. I will pray for them tonight.

Turner exhibited borderline personality disorder early on which is clear from all the friends' comments. It's too late for these wonderful grandparents, but perhaps others can learn from this story and find out about emergency court hearings to determine parental fitness way before a tragedy happens. I wish Grandmother had this information when she first saw "the malignancy" in Turner's eyes. I wish peace for everyone involved in this sad story.

Kurt, so touching. I wonder what other Newfoundlanders thought of the situation? My boyfriend is from NF and is embarrassed that someone like Shirley came from there. They are very trusting people, and I wonder how the welcomed the Bagby's when they went there. Was there any awkwardness?

Thank you again for the beautiful documentary

hi kurt, i just missed what happened to the woman, and did she drown the baby? he was really cute

Hi Patrick,

Indeed, you got the name right -- Judge Derek Green. No, the only comments I got out of him were on the phone call I made to him (which is in my documentary, "Dear Zachary") and he simply said, "What I did is on the record and will speak for itself." And it does.

ya, and take note "ITS NATURE" r they crazy....

How about the dr. who said Shirley wasn't nuts. What ever happened to him?

Apparently he's prescribing drugs to people who shouldn't have them!

How differently Judge Green would feel if Zachary were his grandson.

I hope he can sleep at night; knowing he sympathized with the devil.

Where is the justice!?

An eye for an eye....someone should have just killed her and put her out of her own misery.

At least Zachary would have still been alive and his dear grandparents would have some joy.

This story angers me beyond words...the WRONG person was protected! It was SO OBVIOUS that she was guilty of the first murder! The legal 'system' is a joke and everyone who played a role in 'protecting the mothers rights' should be ashamed of themselves!

Shame!!!

I wonder how that Doctor can live with himself? Lunatic.

I copied this from the Liberal Senate Reform page, Hon. Tommy Banks on April 15, 2010. Are these statements incorrect?

On November 14, 2002, Newfoundland Chief Justice Derek Green ordered Dr. Turner committed to custody, pending a surrender order for extradition from the federal Minister of Justice. By then, the senior Bagbys had obtained an order stipulating that if Dr. Turner were incarcerated, they would have full care of their grandson.

On January 10, 2003, the Court of Appeal Judge Gail Welsh released Dr. Turner on bail, pending the outcome of her appeal of Mr. Justice Green's committal order. Dr. Turner thereupon regained custody of her son Zachary.

the judge is higher court. he should have never let that woman have bail. maybe he had a problem.

Dirg,

According to the Dateline show, no, those statements are not incorrect. Apparently she was incarcerated by Judge Green, but that was overturned on appeal. And yes, the Bagby's did have custody of Zachary during her incarceration according to the show, but they had to endure daily phone calls from her. When she was released, she regained custody of Zachary.

I am always moved by these shows .. but my tears were overwhelming and not able to hold in :( I feel so much sadness for Andrews parents and commend them highly! They are strong and touched me forever. They are now in heaven together happy and their angels. Until they meet again .....

I am a mother and a grandparent and can not possibly know what it feels like nor want to , but i do know what LOVE is. By watching this show my heart went out to every one . The documentary you made is a lesson to the judge , anyone in their right mind knew she was guilty why she was able to raise a child and have custody ????I do hope this judge feels the familys pain and is taught a lesson.God Bless you and your future endevours.

you were watching dateline not 20/20

thats true Denise, i didnt catch that, but it made me laugh (dateline, duhh)

Thank you, Ricardo; that's very kind of you. Truly appreciate it. And yes, they are very much missed. I loved the title that the producer, John Block, chose for tonight's episode -- "The Best Man". Too true.

Hi, I'm her son from the Dateline episode and I can't speak for all of the other family members, but I do know that the majority of us assumed she was innocent all along, until the eventual, tragic conclusion. I'm the oldest of her children, so at the time of everything that happened I was roughly 20, my oldest sister 17, and my youngest sister was 13. Even after her death it was hard for my two sisters to accept that she was guilty and honestly, I'm still not 100% sure how they feel about it.

As for her mother/father/sisters, her father died while she was still a child and I can't really speak for the rest of them as I don't have much contact with any of them.

TJ, thank you for your response. You are also in my heart as well as you were blinded by the lies. Is her mother still alive? Do you not have any contact with her sisters and mother? Is this maybe one of her issues?

TJ,

I know that most of the comments on here will be given to Kurt, Kate, and David but I do believe that you need to be acknowledged as well. I am glad that you are also on here to represent yourself. As much as this is a tragedy for everyone else, you too suffered a great loss and that should not be overlooked. I am sorry to you for the loss of your brother. I wish you peace and the knowledge that you will one day be able to meet him again.

TJ, thank you for clarifying and joining in. I don't understand though, when you say the majority of you thought she was innocent. Did you think there was a mistake made in identifying/charging her, that she was wrongly accused and she would be exonerated at trial?

I think that you are a brave young man who has also suffered losses, of your brother and your mother and the life that you once knew. Please remember that none of this is your fault. I wish you happiness and peace for the rest of your life.

Nicholejeff - Her mother and sisters/brothers are still alive. I have some contact with them on the internet but that's it really. They all live far away from me.

Dirg - Yeah, I just always assumed it had to be someone else. I was younger then, naive I guess, and just though hey, the murder happened in the US and it could have been anyone, ya know? Very stereotypical of me, but I never thought my mother was capable of it until after the fact and being wise enough to reflect on it for what it truly is.

Bless you TJ. Bless you.

Thanks so much for the kind words, Aurora. I really appreciate it. I felt it was my responsibility to go on and continue this project -- and I'm someone who always finishes everything I start, so my internal sense of completion wouldn't have let me abandon it. It honestly was a true pleasure to finish the movie, because during the editing process, I got to spend every day with Andrew, Zachary and their whole circle of friends, who were all in my computer on the film's footage while I was cutting. So there was something very warm and satisfying about the process of working on the movie, as the body of it was painting a portrait of Andrew for those who didn't know him.